Experimental Artist.... Any Ideas???

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Author Message   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 8:44 pm:    Like WOW!! What do you think of this. It certainly looks the real deal. Ebay Item #200129811702 This looks right up your alley MK.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 9:07 pm:    Right idea, wrong implementation (for me, that is). mk   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 9:53 pm:    Snowjays: Another one similar to this popped up a few years back. I distinctly remember the double pickup selectors and triple coil pup (not the SD, obviously). Here's the link to that message: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/sho w.cgi?tpc=12&post=1654#POST1654 However, the picture in the second message must have gotten mixed up in one of the software upgrades because it isn't showing the correct picture. The three below it do show the correct images. There are some inconsistencies in the hardware with the ebay one. That Gibraltar I bridge and 2 piece cloud are newer than a late '76 serial number and I've never seen those knobs on an Ibanez. The placement of the knobs and mini-switches are very interesting. I'd say that was a stock configuration.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:04 pm:    Actually, it is quite interesting: put back the Super 80 in the bridge and relocate the tele pickup to just above the bridge and you have a poor man's Cowboy w/out EQ. mk   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:24 pm:    Here's the pictures from the ebay auction. (I think this guitar is too interesting not to have the pictures archived here.)   Cmangeot Username: Cmangeot Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:43 pm:    I feel that this is a real prototype made by Ibanez, and maybe brought back for more changes, which would explain the later hardware.... VERY COOL!!!   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Monday, July 16, 2007 - 10:51 pm:    John, notice it's dot inlays but onlt 22 frets.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 8:49 am:    For a 'stock' guitar, I think the tone/volume knobs and tri-sounds switches are oddly positioned. Why not make them symmetrical to make them look better? Why not position the tri-sounds more conveniently? They're nothing like the 2619. mk   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:10 am:    The seller added another photo of the back of the headstock. Never seen a serial number stamped like this one. Here's his auction description: "This is an almost 'one of a kind'. Actually it is 1 of only 19 made by Ibanez of Japan. Serial number K763030. In the laste 70's the Ibanez rep. came into the store here in Hawaii and stated that only 19 of these were being produced. Loggins bought one and Steve Miller bought one. I never thought I would sell this, but it seems I just don't have a use for it. It is an Artist. Japan made. Super 80 pickups originally, although I switched the bridge to a JB by Seymour Duncan. I have the original Bridge pickup though, and it will be included with the guitar. The unique thing about this Artist is that Ibanez fitted it with an additional "Tele" style pickup at the bridge.........My Gawd!! I was just fooling around a bit on this guitar and what an incredible range of sounds! (In one bridge pickup setting you can capture the Geo. Harrison sound of the intro to "I'm In Love with Her and I Feel Fine". Or is title just "I Feel Fine"? Whatever.... There is a Neck Vol. Bridge Vol. "Tele pickup" Vol. Master Tone pot. Master Volume Pot. Parallel/Series/Phase switch for the neck and bridge pickup. Two toggles at the top horn of the guitar; One is for N/B/Both, (Just like a Les Paul) the other controls the "Tele" pickup; Only the humbuckers/Tele+ selected humbucker/ only Tele. Very very impressive tones!!! (The Master Volume pot is a bit scratchy but works quite well) The finish is Vintage Tobaco. Quarter sawn neck. Gibralter bridge (new), new tailstop. Very shiney.... White body binding that extends up the neck. Med. jumbo frets in GREAT shape. A brass 'zero' fret at the nut. Very little in the way of scratches. Great neck that adjusts freely."   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 9:29 am:    That ain't alot of digits there in that serial #.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 12:28 pm:    I wonder if the original didn't have the 3 coil pup like the original Iceman......I think that guitar was around about the same time as this one   Cmangeot Username: Cmangeot Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 4:34 pm:    That pickup mount looks like one piece, these are not common pieces are they???   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 17, 2007 - 11:49 pm:    Hamer made a triple coil pup surround for their 'Phantom' and 'Prototype' series guitars in the 80's. I had one, in pink! The surround on this Ibanez looks flat where as the Hamer version was tapered say like a rear surround on the Les paul. six   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 7:33 am:    The link Johns gave us above shows hum/single coil only reversed as opposed to the ebay guitar.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 7:52 am:    Freak: You are correct. If you look carefully, the pickup surround is routed for a double & single coil pickup. I am assuming the surround was rotated 180 degrees from its original orientation. mk   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 12:29 pm:    MK: Are you saying that you think the K76 one has had the single coil and humbucker turned around? Well, the seller explains the "new" Gibraltar I bridge and tail. I wish it had been left alone, though. This would have been a great piece of history to have been preserved. The control layout is very different, but deliberately planned out. That's why I think it's from the factory. Anybody have an Artist that didn't have a waist cutout, like this one? The E77 one had one. The rear cavity covers are also different shapes. Unfortunately, Steve Coates' emails are being returned. So, no more pictures of that one are likely to come.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 1:10 pm:    Here's a pic of Steve's guitar. I suspect this is how it came from Ibanez. Single coil in the middle position. Humbucker in the bridge position. Thus, the surround cut-outs are reversed from the one currently on eBay. Is the single coil really a Tele pickup? mk   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 3:50 pm:    Oh wow I just noticed how fat it is. She looks like a pregnant Artist. I'll take one of the puppies.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 5:43 pm:    The auction was pulled... mk   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Wednesday, July 18, 2007 - 6:55 pm:    Game over then six   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 8:08 am:    The seller decided to hold on to it until the right offer came along... mk

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