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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 12:12 am:   

Good day,

I own a '77 transitional model 2619. When I first bought it, it had one two way switch for what I believe was switching in and out of phase. I'm not 100 percent sure. It never worked! So.. I brought it to a local guitar store to have it fixed and have NOS super 80's installed. Well in the process of them "fixing" my guitar they broke and threw out the original switch. I was furious. They replaced it with a cheap looking crappy generic metal switch that doesn't look right. Even worse.. The switch still didn't work! That was about a year ago... The guitar still worked and I was so mad that I just took my guitar home and lived with the mess they had made.
I've decided it's high time to fix this guitar. Should I get an original switch? Or does it matter? Where would I get this switch? Or can I simply buy a black switch that will look the part? Anyways.. What do you guys think?
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 2:09 am:   

Russ,

A regular 'box' type switch should fit in the hole ok. They are not hard to track down on ebay.

six
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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 2:57 am:   

Box type eh?? I will investigate!
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:57 am:   

A bit like this

Ebay Item #300133424042

six
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 9:37 am:   

Russel:

Are you saying the 2-position switch for the "phase" or the 3-way toggle for the pickups is bad? The switch that Six linked to is for the pickup selector.

For the 2-position switch, you probably could use something like this:
Ebay Item #7386208090
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 10:02 am:   

A very good point John.

six
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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 6:38 pm:   

Johns,

You're absolutely right. That's not what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a mini switch. The original one was only a two way mini switch. It wasn't a tri switch. It only had two positions. It was a small black mini switch. The one that's in there now doesn't work. At least I don't think it works, because when I flick it there is no effect on sound.
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 8:48 pm:   

Did you check the wiring? It may have nothing to do with the switch.

One more thing: you say that you had NOS Super 80's installed. Do you know if they were the tri-sound version of the Super 80's (which would have 3 colored wires plus the shield) or the more common 'plain' Super 80's? Unless you have the tri-sound version, you won't be able to wire the pups for single coil or out-of-phase.

mk
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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Monday, July 23, 2007 - 11:16 pm:   

I have no Idea! I can't remember. I will need to open it up and look. I guess that could be one possibility. In any case the switch needs to go. It looks terrible! I hope that I don't have to get another pickup! They're hard to find. Especially one that will match(not tarnished). I do have the original pickup. It's tarnished and the one of the coils doesn't work. So I'm not sure if that can be fixed easily. Perhaps I could have it re-wound. It just seems like this could start to be a much bigger problem than I originally thought!
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 7:32 am:   

Okay. If just one mini toggle on the guitar then you will only need a 2 way switch not a tri-sound type switch.

six
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 9:13 am:   

Six:

Not necessarily so: if he has a tri-sound Super 80, he can wire it up like the later 2619's with hb/single/phase reversal, thus requiring a tri-sound switch.

mk
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 9:28 am:   

Let me clarify. There are two ways to go: phase reversal between the two pickups using a two-way switch, or hb/single/phase reversal within a single pickup using a tri-sound. To restore the guitar back to its original configuration, the two-way switch is the way to go. It all depends on what he's after.

mk
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 3-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 10:21 am:   

True Mike. I'm just guessing that for the year (77) and single mini switch it's gonna be a two-way.

Daveg - what do you think?

six
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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 7:08 pm:   

It was a two way originaly. So That's the way I want it. Unless of course the pickups wont let me.
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 7:32 pm:   

You should be able to restore it to original condition with those pickups.

mk
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Russellhodgson
Username: Russellhodgson

Registered: 1-2006
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2007 - 8:41 pm:   

Well.. I took a quick look inside. I'm not much of a electrical savvy guy. So I'm not 100 percent. But I did take a look at the wires that were in there. Man.. They look old! Anyways.. I compared what I could see with the old one that didnt work and they don't look the same. So it could be that I don't have the right pickup. The old pickup has a few multi coloured wires. I'm 100 percent sure. I didn't take the pickup out or try and mess with the wires too much. They look very delicate and I don't want to break anything. Much like the idiot who "fixed" it in the first place. I was thinking about trying to do the work myself. But I must confess... I'm chicken. I don't want to mess it up. To be honest I really don't know how and wouldn't know where to start. I'm not a big fan of paying someone else to screw it up either. I guess this is why it's remained in it's current state of dis-repair.

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