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Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:18 am: | |
What is this? Looks like a 2619... but only one pup. Ebay Item #160144629401 |
Acetan
Username: Acetan
Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 12:37 pm: | |
You beat Dave by five minutes. Wow!!! |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 4:12 pm: | |
Jchester...Look close it has the eq like a 2622 AND it has a Varitone like 'Lucille"........very interesting guitar, wonder what it sounds like ? |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 5:12 pm: | |
Yeah... I saw those too. I'd guess it sounds like a 2622 with only its bridge pup on. I can't imagine the 'Varitone' doing any more than splitting the coils & throwing them in & out of phase. But then one mini-switch turns the eq on & off... what's the other one for? Odd duck... pretty though... & in beautiful shape! |
Trisound
Username: Trisound
Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 5:26 pm: | |
Boy, 3 band active EQ, a 5(?) position Varitone, trisound switch...that's quite a few tonal possibilities. It sure does look like a nice specimen though, albeit somewhat 'naked' looking (IMHO) with no neck pickup or toggle switch... Would love to hear what it sounds like. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 5:28 pm: | |
We NEED to know the story behind this one! mk |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:23 pm: | |
What a strange bird. It has a stunning finish and the Super 80 looks in great shape. Too bad they don't show the dings on the back or the serial number. I don't understand the electronics. Regarding the pickup, the tri-sound is all that's needed. It's almost as if they replaced the master EQ level pot with the Varitone switch??? btw...the EQ switch doesn't look original. There's no reserve, so this guitar will sell. I hope it ends up with a collector. mk |
Texasbob
Username: Texasbob
Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:33 pm: | |
only about 45 min from me, i will try to get a look at this one |
Texasbob
Username: Texasbob
Registered: 11-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 6:41 pm: | |
this is the same seller that had that doubleneck that didnt sell |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:04 pm: | |
This is a high-volume seller (>8,000 feedback). I find that they typically are not very responsive and aren't well informed. I've asked for pictures of the back, including the headstock. We'll see... mk |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 7:15 pm: | |
Mike, the EQ switch looks original to me same as the early 2622's. This guitar looks like a '78/79 so it makes sense |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:42 pm: | |
Maybe so. My 2622 was a '79 and I think the switch was different. mk |
Tbplayer
Username: Tbplayer
Registered: 4-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 8:52 pm: | |
well , now that is a odd duck. i wonder if that was made by an employee as a personal guitar and it found it's way here. i know that gibson and fender both have stuff like that roaming around. but that is not a fill in on the front pup. if it was i need the address of the guy who did it. |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 10:27 pm: | |
We need this thread documented with a pic.
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:12 pm: | |
Sure is purty! mk |
Shel
Username: Shel
Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:15 pm: | |
I have an SA-400 semi-hollowbody with a 'varitone' that looks the same as this and from this era.In my guitar, all it is is a step-wise tone control-not at all like the Gibson. |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 11:38 pm: | |
MK...if you you need more pics on this one...then you suck at eBay .... ; |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:19 am: | |
All of that extra, unobscured wood is sure purty. I can't do it... but someone here gots'ta get her! |
Peterdryan
Username: Peterdryan
Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:22 am: | |
Well, there's 3 people going after her. Are any of them "us"? |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 12:29 am: | |
I don't think that anyone here is dumb enough to bid with 6+ days left... but I'm sure that there are SEVERAL ICW members out there, "Watching This Item". |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 4:14 am: | |
Looks like it's had a refret. The nibs have gone. I reckon '79 but never seen nuthin' like this before. Must have been a show guitar or something. It reminds me a little of the Amos Garrett model Artist. six |
Chazmo Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 8:36 am: | |
I agree, that is really nice looking. Really clean. |
Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor
Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 10:00 am: | |
Guys, Take a look at the 21st fret. There appears to be an engraved inlay similar to the "Custom Made" inlay used on the AR150x. My 10th anniversary AR10BL has a similar engraved inlay. I've posted a question to the seller about it. The auction states they answer emails within 48 hours, so we'll have to wait and see. js |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 5:42 pm: | |
I'm not sure that absent biding tabs tells you much. Not absolutely sure, but I think the entire AR transitionals from ~'79 did not have them...this thing looks like it was played 11 times...at home! Unless it was rebuilt...which I doubt. |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:41 am: | |
Good point about the nibs Strings. Must be '79 then. six |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:53 am: | |
Does anybody think the fretboard looks more like rosewood than ebony? |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:01 am: | |
John, it looks like rosewood to me. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:23 am: | |
Where's Jim Donahue on this one? |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:26 am: | |
I e-mailed him yesterday and he had no clue. He asked for the serial number, which we don't have. mk |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:34 am: | |
Did you send him a photo Mike? Someone on this site should own this guitar, I'd go for it if I could. But can't. Strange bird. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:59 am: | |
Yes - I sent him the picture. Yes - someone needs to buy it, however, I must pass. mk |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:05 am: | |
Mike....somethng tells me there is going to be a LOT of action on this one. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:36 am: | |
It will be fun to watch! I hope the seller answers our questions - I'd really like to know if there is an inlay at the 21st fret. mk |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:17 pm: | |
I don't think that "limited edition" inlay is there, in the neck. It looks like a straight piece of inlay. Good chance this is a one-of-a-kind, IMHO. How does one obtain a one-of-a-kind old Ibanez in the first place (if this is one, or any other one for that matter?) You would think an employee made it up for himself... or as an excample to show what he was suggesting as far as design. The fact that there are obviously not too many exactly like this around would make me think there was something not "up-to-snuff" about it or else they would have went ahead and produced it. They probably figured "OK but... what's the sense of the one pup? May as well put 2 pups in there. Interesting guitar, no matter what it is. I think Dave winds up with this one. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 1:24 pm: | |
"Dave winds up with this one". Ya think? mk |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 2:27 pm: | |
Looks like eboney to me... |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 2:44 pm: | |
Here's what I heard from HoshinoUSA: "...this interesting axe is most likely one custom-made for an artist in the 70's." Far from definitive, but an educated guess from a Hoshino insider. |
Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor
Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 3:08 pm: | |
No engraving on the 21st fret, although if you look closely, the inlay is not a 3 piece block, and is a bit larger than it "should be". It sure looks to me like it was an engraving inlay that was simply left blank. I agree with Dave, there's going to be a lot of action on this. May he who has the deepest pockets (or the smallest brain) win js |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 3:31 pm: | |
Serial number is B794429. mk |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 3:53 pm: | |
Michael....SSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUUSSSSSS HHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 4:02 pm: | |
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Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor
Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 5:54 pm: | |
Dave, your 7s are giving you away |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 8:31 pm: | |
Interesting guitar, I was willing to go up to $800...but methinks a shill is present so I'm out |
Tubescorcher
Username: Tubescorcher
Registered: 3-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:37 pm: | |
Hey Dave g, Only $800? |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:52 am: | |
$900... with 4+ days left??? I don't care how rare, odd, custom, one-off, etc... I agree with Dave... he's using a SHILL! Texasbob... might be worth a 45 minute drive... just to slap this schmuck silly. (I've always admired "Texas Justice"... & Yiddish insults.) |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:05 am: | |
I wonder if it's in here... Ebay Item #170138131919 six |
Peterdryan
Username: Peterdryan
Registered: 6-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:52 am: | |
Is anyone going to be bidding on this "Ibanez Super Bible"? If not, I am, but I don't want it bad enough to step on someone else's toes (and jack the price up). |
Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor
Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 9:11 am: | |
I wouldn't be so quick to judge the seller so harshly. The "shill" bids were by a someone that has bid on a ton of other stuff. It appears to me to be simple probing for the high bid. I doubt they're in cahoots with the seller. Some people see a line drawn in the sand as an invitation to step over it. OK, Bob. It's time for you to inject your rhetoric on the ill-effects of bidding too early in an auction. |
Chazmo Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 9:59 am: | |
I'm starting a "miscellaneous" thread on this subject, guys. Go see. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 10:43 am: | |
As a player, I think that with one pickup, this guitar is severely limited, and thus, I have no plans for bidding. For $900, I'd rather have a 2619 or 2622. For a collector, the appeal is obvious, however, I still would think twice. The issue is that it's an odd-ball guitar which will make it harder to sell down the road for a price that's worthwhile, especially if you pay a premium to purchase it initially. mk |
Lofapco
Username: Lofapco
Registered: 7-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:31 am: | |
I would agree unless you can really find out the history.... who was it made for Per John above "Here's what I heard from HoshinoUSA: "...this interesting axe is most likely one custom-made for an artist in the 70's." Far from definitive, but an educated guess from a Hoshino insider." If those facts could be known and documented... This might be a real collector. JMHO |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:33 pm: | |
Chaz... I don't suggest starting a thread about bidding early on ebay. There is already such a thread on here and it gets people bent out of shape. I think we were warned about continuing with it. I thought I had presented some inarguable points of view there on bidding early but... I was sadly mistaken about that. Basically, only bid early when it's MY auctions!!! (That's a joke gentlemen, put your pitchforks and torches back down.) |
Chazmo Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:41 pm: | |
Too late, Bob. OK, well if John wants to shut it down, it's up to him. I didn't recall seeing the original thread. Besides, I'm not trying to get folks bent out of shape. I just got a little annoyed this morning and needed to vent. |
Jeffsailor
Username: Jeffsailor
Registered: 1-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 2:48 pm: | |
Michael, While I agree with your point, it is valid only under the assumption that a potential buyer actually cares about future resale value. I'll wager most of the members that consider themselves "collectors" don't put a priority on resale value when bidding on something they really want. And Bob, don't confuse fatigue over the bidding early/late point with disagreement. I happen to agree with your point of view (which has been VERY WELL documented ). js |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 4:09 pm: | |
Bob, no such thing as inarguable points - ask YOUR political party ; Don't forget that early bids can thwart interest for many...so, be aware that these are ALSO snipe-able - they don't peak at the end...they plateau in the middle! |
Acetan
Username: Acetan
Registered: 9-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 5:21 pm: | |
Bob, I totally agree with you that early biddings are strongly recommended when it is MY auction. Ace |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 7:48 pm: | |
Mike, You mentioned about the guitar being limited sound wise. Maybe not. There are enough knobs and switches to keep a player busy. Ask Leslie West if one pickup held him back six |
Roland_g303
Username: Roland_g303
Registered: 5-2007
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:03 pm: | |
With one pup you actually have less magnetic pull on the strings themselves. IMO they sound better than two pup guitars. I've got an Gibson SG Jr that absolutely smokes with just a P90. I don't miss the neck pup one bit. Patrick |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:31 pm: | |
When it comes to a vintage Artist w/ Super 80's, I would certainly miss the neck pup. mk |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 7:42 am: | |
I'm still waiting for Strings' 3 - pup Artist. They should make one. I always fancied one of those 3-pup Black beauty LP's. Someday, I intend to own one. But, of course I'd rather have a 3-pup Artist. |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:27 am: | |
BobZ: Does the Cowboy qualify as a 3-pup Artist? mk |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 8:31 am: | |
Yes, but I'm thinking 3 hummers. Like the Black Beauty. |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:17 am: | |
Bob, ever been entertained by the delicate, smokin' hands of a one Billy Jones (e.g. Green Grass & High Tides)? He played that model exclusively. If I purchased this one...it will end up customized with 3 p-ups...it's just askin' for it ;O) |
Strings
Username: Strings
Registered: 1-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:22 am: | |
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2007 - 10:56 am: | |
Strings... "green Grass and High Tides" brings back many good memories. One of the first songs I ever noodled around with. Great tune and it still holds up to this day. The first song I ever completely figured out (chords) to was "American Pie" by Don McLean. I don't know why I mention that but when you mentioned Green Grass, it just made me think of some of the first songs I noodled with. I don't think your photo completely downloaded above. Did it? I'm going to see Joe Walsh tonight. CANNOT WAIT! |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 4:53 am: | |
Bob, I onced owned a 68 Les Paul Custom. A previous owner had put a third pickup in. It was a nice guitar but about as heavy as a 2681 Weir. I'd rather have the Weir.. six |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 10:55 am: | |
Wow - $1,653.88! Did ICW members bid? mk |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:05 pm: | |
I'm curious to know the winner's identity, too. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 1:41 pm: | |
HoshinoGakkiTen sounds like someone at Hoshino bought it to bring it back home. That would be cool. If an ICW member ended up with it, even better. -Chuck |
Trisound
Username: Trisound
Registered: 1-2006
| Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 7:53 pm: | |
Well, it was certainly fun to watch. Hopefully, we'll get some more information from the new owner. Proud winner, come forth and identify yourself... |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 9:04 pm: | |
HoshinoGakki is most definately "one of us" who is known under a diferent name on this forum-he has an awesome collection and most of us have uttered his real name from time to time. I think he likes to keep his ebay purchases private and uses the HoshinoGakki name to bid with some level of privacy. Spend time on this forum and you will know who this is,.... And its NOT me....I was bidder #7 on this auction |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 12:49 am: | |
Well then, Dave... what happened to your $800 limit on this one? Evidently, you were willing to go a good bit higher. Remind me NOT to play poker with you! |
Munch
Username: Munch
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:23 am: | |
Ok, I'm thinking Jim Donahue, Jeff Hasselberger, or our own fearless leader John Shanley..... I'd put my money on Jim Donahue.. |
Munch
Username: Munch
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 2:41 am: | |
I think our mystery man lives in the US, drives a Honda S2000, has a taste for cold Irish beer straight from the keg, and tinkers with airconditioners. |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 7:49 am: | |
Most observant Munch ! |
Chazmo Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:11 am: | |
OK, this is me... But I don't tinker with air conditioners. ;)
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 8:58 am: | |
ok - that went right over my head... I send JD a picture of the guitar and he asked me for the serial number. I then sent him a link to the auction and I never heard back. If JD bought the guitar, then the silence makes sense. mk |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:14 am: | |
MK: The connection is in Munch's second message. |
Chazmo Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 9:46 am: | |
... and I just threw in the picture of me and my S2000 to confuse everyone. (I didn't buy this guitar) |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 1:46 am: | |
Irish beer in the US . Guinness doesn't travel very well. They make it here is Sydney and it tastes like dish water for $6 a pint! Disgusting. six |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 7:33 am: | |
Could that Honda be an '87 Accord? Ginger |
Jchester
Username: Jchester
Registered: 5-2006
| Posted on Thursday, August 16, 2007 - 12:02 am: | |
"Irish beer in the US" - may refer to Killian's Irish Red. (my personal fave - yum) Beyond that... I have no clue. Why all the cloak & dagger? |