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Growler
Username: Growler

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 11:55 am:   

On a Gibralter bridge should the string length adjustment screw heads appear north or south as supplied from the factory?
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 12:06 pm:   

I think this is a Gibraltar bridge, off my PF 200. It has the screw heads at both ends of the sliding adjuster thingies, but I do notice that the slanting side of the string propper-upper thingy is to the rear. Sorry for all the super-technical language, but I think you can see what I mean with this picture:

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-Chuck
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Growler
Username: Growler

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   

Looks like the actual adjuster screw heads are southbound....
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:16 pm:   

Chuck's saddles are pointing in the correct direction.
Where you put the screw heads depends whether you can reach them or not.

If you look at Les Paul and ES-335 guitars in Gibson catalogues and shops (brand new) you see the screws of tune-o-matics installed in both ways. As long as you can work with them it's no problem.


Ginger
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 3:31 pm:   

So the word is "saddle" not "string propper-upper thingy"? Who knew? ;-)
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 6:17 pm:   

On a couple of occasions I had to reverse the E and A saddles to get correct intonation. I ran out of adjustment!

The Bear
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 12:02 am:   

Yeah, not ideal, but sometimes you just need those extra millimetres. In fact that means that the anchor base holes were drilled a little too close to the neck. This is better than drilling new ones.


Ginger
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 12:18 am:   

Bear...I'm hopin' that was 6 with 5 and not 6 with one! ;
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 12:19 am:   

er rather...5 with 1...
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 1:01 am:   

I used to own an Epihone BB King Lucille, the intonation adjusting screws of which faced the tailpiece. This proved to be an utter nuisance because the E & B strings would both snick into the slots of their respective screws so tight was the break angle over the bridge. The best solution I found to get around this problem was to trade it on another guitar.
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 3:01 am:   

Strings,

Huh? Ya lost me.

Ginger,

Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with the guitar. It means the setup I was using was outside what the factory had intended. ie: Heavy strings and relatively high action require more adjustment than was available. I almost always end up with the E saddle jammed up against the stop.

The Bear
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 8:32 am:   

Do you use these brake cable gauge strings?
I read that Hank Marvin uses .013s, but I never tried anything higher than .011 on a solid body (mostly .010 on hardtails/stoptails but .009 on the stratocaster) and .012 on my jazz boxes and dreadnoughts.

But you're quite a tall strong guy with big strong hands and you play mostly rock. I guess you would break too much strings when you use the thin ones, right?

I have one old set of phoshpor bronze Ernie Balls, which I bought to use the bass strings as spares for my short mandola, which actually needs .062 for the low G. This was the best I could find back then. I never dared to use it on my guitars.


Ginger
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 3:25 pm:   

"But you're quite a tall strong guy with big strong hands and you play mostly rock.

Huh? I'm short, got stubby fingers, and my band plays a mix of Country, Gospel, Blues, Rock, and Folk.
Where DO you get these delusions?

As for the "brake cables"; 11-49 in standard tuning.

I run out of adjustment because of the tall action.

The Bear
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 3:55 pm:   

Bear,
"On a couple of occasions I had to reverse the E and A saddles to get correct intonation. I ran out of adjustment!"

Which E? #1 string is the high one so I doubt that one was in the "swap" mix you mentioned.

Whatever worx ;O)
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 6:59 pm:   

Oops, I was confusing two photos of guys with wild long curly hair. I thought Strings was you... He looks quite impressive with that Explorer

http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/17 /2285.html?1160515390

Sorry for projecting an image in my mind onto your person and thank you for putting the right subscripts to the right photos again, re-arrangeing the marbles so to say.

I will have to get used to the short bear image though...
But it's good to know you play all kinds of styles too.


Ginger
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:10 pm:   

Shhh Dave!


Time for one of these
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:44 pm:   

Ginger, if you read the context of that thread in the lnk you posted, Dave_g and I deviated briefly on the subject of whether a one Allen Collins (of Lynyrd Skynyrd) played an MIJ explorer from time to time.

This look more like me and my 98.5% minty 2622:
2622onloud
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 12:48 pm:   

2622
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 1:02 pm:   

Kinda butchered a beautiful axe with the pic size reduction...here's a better run at the important subject ;

me2622
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 5:44 pm:   

You put all that hair and a beard under that cap? (just kidding)

I see that both hands seem to be functioning again. At least you can put your fingers in your ears again...
That's a start. How's playing?


Ginger
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 1-2005
Posted on Saturday, August 18, 2007 - 3:34 pm:   

Tough doin' 5-fret blues bar-chord walks with the pinky down low on these bodies cuz the neck is so long...good for stretching tho...thanks.

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