Artist "Lotus" inlay

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Author Message   Chipsotoole Username: Chipsotoole Registered: 2-2004 Posted on Friday, August 17, 2007 - 1:25 am:    Just wondered if the lotus headstock inlay changed much (size, materials, design) over the 70-80's transition. I think I read somewhere here that it was in Abalone on the early top end models....thoughts on this?   Chipsotoole Username: Chipsotoole Registered: 2-2004 Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 8:35 am:    No takers then....?   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, August 25, 2007 - 10:42 am:    Chips - Everybody seems to poo-poo the book "Ibanez: The Untold Story" so take this with a grain of salt. I found a reference on page 78 to the *neck* (not headstock) of the 75 Artist solidbody debuted at the 76 NAMM, "Fancier models now had pearl block inlays with a diagonal abalone inset." The only headstock reference I found was on the same page stating, "...an elaborate fleur-de-lis headstock design..." but it doesn't expand on that. - Pete   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 7:48 am:    Chips: Yes the "lotus" inlay did change in shape from the 70s to the 80s. I think the later shape is more elegant. As far as the materials used, it does depend on the specific model. Most all were "overlays", not inlays. I can't think of one off hand, but I would not doubt that some top/custom built models did have real headstock "inlays". BTW, the 2007 AR305s have the headstock ornamentation silkscreened on in white paint. No thanks.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 1-2005 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 10:38 am:    Hmm... John, Chips...I just did a quick review of three: 78 2622 79 AR500 (debut run - this surprises me cuz of the 2622 body...the neck IS sightly slimmer on that 500 too!) 82 AR300 ALL different shaped "fleurs".....all elegant ;   Chipsotoole Username: Chipsotoole Registered: 2-2004 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 1:13 am:    Can you tell the difference between an overlay and an inlay with the naked eye? I've got a few old script logo ibanez guitars (including a Hummingbird copy and a "Bunny ears" PF200)..none of this reflects a greenish tinge..Wondering if my overlay/inlay was abalone...The lotus also seems slightly squatter (no less elegant) than other models i've seen. Strings, Any chance of putting three pics side by side of your three for comparison purposes?   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:08 am:    Chips: Here's 3 headstocks. The first and second show the dramatic difference between the "first lotus" (mid to late 70s) and the second, which is still used today. The third shows how the lotus has been "squeezed" to fit a narrow headstock. 1978 2619 1981 AS200 1985 AR305SE   Chipsotoole Username: Chipsotoole Registered: 2-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 4:52 am:    Thanks for the pics Johns. Much appreciated.

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