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Author Message   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 1:20 pm:    Ebay Item #260166508860 A first year Weir!Looks nice, even though it has no vines. Seems to be minty. What do Y'all think?   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 3:24 pm:    A little younger with vine Ebay Item #330170022380 Juha   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 4:31 pm:    The first seller totally has his story wrong. The "Bob Weir stole George Benson's guitar" story was referring to the first GB10...not a 2681.   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 4:59 pm:    He hasn't read his copy of "Ibanez, the Untold Story". I don't think he has one. I just think it's cool 'cuz 1975 is the first year they made these things, and this one's 1975. He sent me some high res pics. SWEEET! I don't care if it doesn't have vines, that's a cool guitar. Disn't appear to have a ding on it anywhere! I was born in 1974, so this guitars almost as old as me!   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 6:05 pm:    wow what a coincidence i just read that part of the book last night where he snagged that gb was it the blood red colored i think it read? i like the second link that guitar is exactly as old as me!! 74!   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 6:41 pm:    Sheesh, I was in 10th grade in 1974. You guys are just kids! lol -Chuck   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 7:03 pm:    your right about that too! i totally feel like a Kid!   Cleversj Username: Cleversj Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 9:46 pm:    Shoot, I was a senior then, think we should have an oldest ICW member challenge. John, got any more t-shirts?   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 10:03 pm:    Cleversj: I was a junior in '74. Now all we need is a freshman.   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:45 pm:    Sorry, guys: 8th grade in the 74-75 school year.   Roadartstar Username: Roadartstar Registered: 8-2004 Posted on Wednesday, October 03, 2007 - 11:45 pm:    I was 4 Doh!   Roland_g303 Username: Roland_g303 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:18 am:    I was negative 8 in 1974... Patrick   Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 1:02 am:    In 1974 I was 25 years old. I'll have the T-shirt in medium-size thanks...   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 1:41 am:    Hi all As far as I know the model 2680 (Bob Weir without vines) made their debute in the 1976 catalogue (probably made in the last months of 1975) and these very first had the Ibanez script logo, both on the headstock and embossed in the pickup covers. So the one thatīs offered in the link on top of this thread is definitely not a "first year" one. See this picture from the ī76 catalogue. Kind greetz, Harry   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 5:29 am:    The one pictured has the huge bridge. The one in the thread has the original style tuneomatic bridge, which they were using on guitars made in 1975. I've seen closeups of the bridge, it's definitely original. Maybe theres some variation in the early models? Where did you get that catalog picture? Looks really new to be an old catalog picture.   Jasma Username: Jasma Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 6:38 am:    Here's a Bob made in 1976 # 765808 so an early one. It's for sale on Ebay and it is NICE...   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:42 am:    Right, THAT '76 doesn't look ANYTHING like that catalog picture. Well, I guess the pickups and bridge are the only things different, but still! It shows my point. Nice axe, Jasma! I'm waiting for the price to drop to a reasonable amount. Someone might buy it though. You should put a post in the classifieds, I'm sure someone will buy it. It's expensive to ship/import from australia at the current price.   Mrblanche Username: Mrblanche Registered: 1-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:59 am:    >>Sheesh, I was in 10th grade in 1974. You guys are just kids! lol << And that's the year I graduated from college.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:02 am:    Has anyone actually seen a '1st gen' 2680 like the catalog shot above? mk   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:04 am:    I think that shot is of the prototype. Then again, I haven't seen NEAR as many vintage Ibanez guitars as some of you Ol'Timers! I do know that in 1975 they were still using the old style tunematic bridges.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:30 am:    John.....Class of "77 here, Freshman in '74   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:06 am:    It makes a lot of sense that a bunch of vintage '70s guys are obsessed with vintage '70s Ibanezes. -Chuck   Lofapco Username: Lofapco Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:41 am:    Last of the 70's.... Graduated High School 1979 but I married a 1982! (She was a good year!)   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:14 pm:    The one in the catalogue picture MUST be older than the one in the auction! Old script logo and "Ibanez" script logo embossed in the pickups are typical points of recognition for the age. Only after some time the block logo and the Flying Fingers pickups appeared. The picture is a scan taken from a dealers Map/ordner from definitely 1976 (itīs dated!). It also contains the pictures of the Artwood twin (2670), the Randy Scruggs (2671), the black 2674, the Bob Weir (2681) WITH vine inlay, the 2683, The Custom Agent (2405), the much rarer 2675 (CA with extended body inlay) and the Black Eagle bass. All models are pictured with the old script logo and the Artwood Twin, the Scruggs, both Bob Weir models and the Custom Agents have old script logo embossed pickups. The dealerīs map is from 1976, so the pictured guitars must have been made maybe in 1975? Therefor it might be very possible that the pictured ones are prototypes. By the way: also the Randy Scruggs model in this catalogue as well as the Artwood Twin DO have a narrow bridge so they were used at that time for the professional series. And we know that the use of hardware wasnīt very consistant those days... Jasma, yours is an early one, but not one of the first badges. By the way....in 1975 I was 11 years old. Harry   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:58 pm:    "It makes a lot of sense that a bunch of vintage '70s guys are obsessed with vintage '70s Ibanezes." Exactly! In the late 70's, I was lusting after Weir's Cowboy and to this day, that's the Ibanez era that turns me on the most. mk   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 1:12 pm:    So that first one COULD easily be a first year 1975, even if not one of the initial runs. possibly some kind of transitional? Maybe one of the first bitterflies, but still with the smaller bridge before they changed to the bigger one? Maybe they were still using up some parts on that one. They ran out of the embossed pickups, but still had some small bridges laying around. I still think it's a first year. I wish I could see the back of the headstock.   Mr_roadstar Username: Mr_roadstar Registered: 6-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 2:28 pm:    "It makes a lot of sense that a bunch of vintage '70s guys are obsessed with vintage '70s Ibanezes." So logically, an "80's" guy would be obsessed with 80's guitars, eh? LMAO !! The Bear   Jasma Username: Jasma Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 6:44 pm:    sorry guys about the price on the 2680, but that is what I paid for it..so would like to get my money back!!Unfortunately about the dollar exchange rate? Anyway, here's a photo of a 1979 Bob #E 796434, so slightly different to the 76. Cheers Jorn ps will be selling my BW 2681 Vine shortly   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 8:31 pm:    Harry is spot on with his Artist & Pro series history. I have the same map (and a 75 map). There can only be a few of the slanted script logo's around as in the map picture. I think JohnS Scruggs has a slant on the script as did my old Scruggs. Neither of those have serial numbers. six   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:13 pm:    I think the bridge on the 2680 in the auction is a replacement. That guitar has a block logo and 80s. Since it has a single piece tail, one would imagine the bridge should be one of those harmono-matic thingies (L5S). If that were originally outfitted with a standard tune-o-matic, wouldn't it be slanted? My very first Ibanez was a '77 2860 that I bought brand new in early '78. I still have it... -js   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:54 pm:    ...2680 that is. And from what I remember, a few years back someone on the board (DaveG, I think?) landed a 2680 with the abalone purfling like what is shown in the catalogue photo Harry posted. Here's a few of my pre-serial script logos with embossed pups:   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 10:15 pm:    Jeff, you rmrmory is correct..this very FIRST of the 2680's had embossed logo pups, harmonica type bridge and purfiling just like a 2617   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:11 pm:    Dave - do you have one of these? Can you post pix? mk   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 11:14 pm:    Dave - if what you say is true, then was the TOL vine the only difference between the 1st generation 2680/2681? What was the list price difference between the two models? I remember seeing them both in the window of Sam Ash back in the late 70's... mk   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 1:42 am:    Michael Here are the pictures from both the 2680 and the 2681 "first generation" from the ī76 map. So now you can "spot the differences". Harry   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:06 am:    Thanks. Now...can anyone post pics from an actual guitar (vs. a catalog shot)? mk   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:54 am:    Mike, I cant find a shot of the full guitar-and the ax is in storage, but it has star tuners and script logo, logo pups and purfiling.... I have replated all the parts, so it looks new   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 8:56 am:    BTW the purfiling is BROWN, not the typical green abalone...note the original bridge is not the Harmonica type..I think this is a '76......perhaps the last of the "typeI" weirs ?   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 9:06 am:    Dave, That is interesting. So the bridge in the 2680 from the posted auction above probably is original. Your 2680 looks fantastic. js   Guitarwhisperer Username: Guitarwhisperer Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 7:22 pm:    Where do you get stuff plated at?

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