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Author Message   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 8:36 pm:    Here ya go Folks, 1976 NOS Destroyer <img><br><br> <img><br><br> <img><br><br> <img><br><br>   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 8:45 pm:    OK I can't seem to post them directly so you will have to shuffle the pics....enjoy!..oh, and notice what seems to be like 30 year old mud on the case! http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020333.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020329.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020325.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020324.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020322.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020318.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020317.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020316.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020314.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020313.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020311.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020310.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020307.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020306.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020302.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020299.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020297.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020295.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020294.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020287.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020284.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020282.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020281.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020280.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020278.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020261.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020266.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020269.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020272.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020274.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020275-1.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020276.jpg http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020277.jpg   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 8:59 pm:    Gorgeous. I was going to make the joke: "Mud on the case? Send it back!" BTW, the V should be in my hands by Friday. I see you've removed the protective paper from the pickguard, as I plan to do for my V. Does anyone have an opinion about that? Should I leave it on? -Chuck   Jjhuntfox Username: Jjhuntfox Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:13 pm:    So where and when did you get this? It is a beautiful guitar. I'm jealous.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:14 pm:    Fox, here's where it all began: http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showthread.php?t= 297034 -Chuck   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:32 pm:    Momo, congrats on an amazing find.   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:40 pm:    Momo - In-credible! OMG, that is one beautiful guitar. Thanks for sharing. I need a cigarette. I'm exhausted... - Pete   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:40 pm:    I guess that definitively answers the "case lining" question, too. Blue is also original.   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 9:42 pm:    Momo - Do you happen to know where that train wreck happened? At least, in what state? I'm just kind of curious as to whether yellow lined cases were sent to the East Coast and the blue lined cases to the West Coast. Thanks, - Pete   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 10:02 pm:    Hey guys, thanks for the replies, I just stopped playing...I really love the pups with the high end rolled off! Anyway Peter, I talked about this hole in the ground to my Luthier, I he knows his ••••,he said forget about it, even in the cases, 30 years in the ground, there should not be much left, depending on humitidiy levels...   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 16, 2007 - 10:06 pm:    Did you guys like the long tenon neck fit?...I liked to see the sawdust still in the cavities,but I realized that they really had 1000+ a month to do, so evrything is whizzing by with no place for error, build is top notch, but you get the feeling everything was put together very fast. Sounds real good anyway   Cleversj Username: Cleversj Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:22 am:    Jealousy has engulfed me and I had two cigarettes, •••• GOOD SCORE MOMO (even if the case is the wrong color lining)   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 8:53 am:    I wasn't about to go out there with a shovel and start digging. I was wondering what the destination of that train was.   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 9:50 am:    Right, I get it now,....sorry, my head was spinning all day yesterday.....so ya maybe they split the colors east coast west coast, but that seems like alot of work for no particular reason I guess. I vacumed the lining and was really pleased to find in the compartment a "Kit" with a truss rod allen key,a key for the latch lock and a bridge adjustment thing that ive never seen before, so it is really like Its 1976 and I just bought a new guitar!   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:14 am:    The guitars were salvaged by the father of the woman selling them. If he lived where she does now (and, since the guitars were in her attic, it may be safe to assume she's living in her dad's old house) then I believe the wreck was somewhere outside of Buffalo, New York. There are train track running through the town, going east/west, so the train could have been bound for either Buffalo or Rochester. We'll never know the ultimate destination (FINAL destination?) of the guitars, though. Those tracks probably run west to Chicago and beyond and east all the way to Boston. Maybe we can have a CSI unit do some forensics on the mud on the case? Also, Jonathan (the seller's agent) has just posted that the 2355 has been sold. Did someone here get it? -Chuck   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 11:20 am:    Can one of you guys post the story from the gear page? I don't have a login there (and I don't want one)...   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 12:16 pm:    Reproducing the post: Hey guys, My mother's best friend came to me with these guitars. Her father used to work for the railroad company cleaning up train wrecks. Back in late 1970 there was a car carrying these guitars, and when the train wrecked, he saved these 5 before having to bulldoze the rest to the ground. As you can see these are MINT, most with the paper still covering the pickguards. All come with the original cases. If you have any questions, or are interested at all, please let me know! Also, prices are listed with each guitar, but i have a little room to negotiate. Jonathan k762097 - strat - (2334) - $1100 November 1976 (2029 of the month) k760777 - LP - (2351 av) - $1200 November 1976 (777 of the month) L765316 - V - (rocket roll, sr) SOLD December 1976 (5316 of the month) L765559 - explorer - (destroyer) SOLD! December 1976 (5559 of the month) L765672 - Hollow - (IBANEZ 2355 SUPER 70'S ) -PENDING SALE .... missing plastic toggle screw December 1976 (5672 of the month)   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 1:41 pm:    That's right, pick at the scab...   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 1:51 pm:    Ya sorry there Peter, Im officially finished bragging about her!, you see, ive finally come down off my cloud and will just play her as I would any other guitar.In fact,Friday, im getting my strat back from my luthier and im exited to play her too! Cheers   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 4:58 pm:    Chuck, thanks for the post. Man is that cool. I'm sure somebody lost their shirt on that wreck, but what a find!!!! It's like finding a treasure chest on a sunken pirate ship!!!! Congrats guys. I hope these axes turn out to be in as good a shape as they look.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:08 pm:    This must be the coolest post of all times. Dude... major major score and with that story behind it... I can't imagine it can be beat. It was so much fun to see this. I'm happy and it ain't even my guitar. Life is.... good.   Grateful66 Username: Grateful66 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:30 pm:    Life IS awesome. Bobz I couldn't agree more. The only thing better than this story are the characters involved. I'm really happy for you guys. Amazing stuff!   Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 4-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 5:53 pm:    He i saw this model on the dutchwebsite http://www.marktplaats.nl a couple of days ago....this must be the one....great catch , congratulations. By the way its raining Ibanez stuff on this website.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:15 pm:    There should be inspection tags with those guitars right?   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 6:52 pm:    No tags on it, but had a plastic bag "Kit" in the case with a trussrod allen key, keys to the lock latch and a weird round metal tool for bridge adjustment.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 7:18 pm:    Someone snag that 2351 LP!!! Momo, Chuck, you guys are now caretakers of amazing pieces of history. I can't really believe these "NOS" guitars existed, but every once in a while the most amazing things happen. You should try to get a letter from the woman who had these... I'm trying to decide, if I were you guys, what I'd do with these unbelievable pieces. You have to find a way to display the cases just as much as the guitars, guys. Find some used railway car and attach it to your house or something.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 7:40 pm:    The train eck should be in the newspaper archives that they keep on microfilm where it happeded.   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 8:25 pm:    Chazmo, man Im starting to feel the pressure!...in the sense that I want to play this babe and it would be played as often as my strat, but now im wondering if I should play it....a letter from the Lady would in fact be a good thing, adding mojo to the pile already there. Aw, ill play it!, in fact I have been playing it alot since 2 days, it already feels great, my body has gelled with it and its very comfortable, all this tone,feel, and comfort on the neck, makes me play like I never did before!...so I doubt that I would put it in a glass "jar/timecapsule"! In fact, that was what was missing (real great tone), to start my band....people are already writing in.....all this new energy in my life,so yea, my Destroyer will be active! Cheers   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 17, 2007 - 9:09 pm:    Momo, Ibanez guitars were meant to be played! More power to you. Try to keep it mint, and make sure you bring this to some collector's gatherings in the future. No matter what you do to it now, it's got intense mojo being recovered from a wreck and kept "NOS" for 30 years. I just still can't get over that.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 10:23 am:    Are there more still buried there? I have a shovel.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 11:45 am:    The les paul replica is a bolt on. They also have a banjpo but its not for sale.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 2:42 pm:    Dude, get as much info from the lady as you can about this wreck. I'm in New York. I have a house upstate... just out of curiosity I'd like to know more about it. Then, if there's more axes underground... theymay be worth the effort. maybe there's an ar5000 down there! 2670!   Trisound Username: Trisound Registered: 1-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 18, 2007 - 10:15 pm:    I'm sensing an ICW field trip (pilgrimage) in the works. A sort of archaeology / rock 'n roll fantasy camp...   Mrblanche Username: Mrblanche Registered: 1-2006 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 9:26 am:    Knowing how freight is shipped, I would guess there might have been a pallet of guitars, but probably not a train car full. And that pallet likely would have been in a mail car, where the climate is more controlled, than in a freight car. Today, immense amounts of freight go by rail. And they do have crashes. Imagine you're the claims guy at BNSF, and you have to call JB Hunt and tell them your train had a crash overnight and 200 of their loaded trailers are now lying in a pile of wreckage in New Mexico. Unlike most truckers, I think that all freight that CAN go by rail should go by rail, but right now, our rail system is just about at capacity. However, the whole story sound a little fishy to me (and, I suspect, to others). My real suspicion is that these guitars were stolen out of a shipment, then hidden long enough to let the heat die down. But you never know; sometimes the truth is just too hard to believe!   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:21 am:    Mrblanche!, I love this, OK lets do some forensics! After coming off my Destroyer cloud, I started exploring every inch of the guitar and case....here is what I found on the case that looks like an impact.... I can confirm that it was not done in shipping....the exterior box had nothing on it...so this must be a hard and rapid impact as these cases are pretty tough, well Id be curious to hear what you guys think, I feel that was done from the train impact....!!! Oh and a good part of case has dried mud on it!,not a inch high, but you feel it has been at least in alot of dust,nothing like that on the inside Cheers http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s114/momoo_buck et/P1020339.jpg   Craigjc Username: Craigjc Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:46 am:    My first Ibanez had to be ordered from a music store. Ordered in 1976, I waited a year. The delay, I was told, was because of a train wreck carrying Ibanez guitars including mine. The guitar had to be reordered. After waiting a year, I found one at another store in 1977.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 11:41 am:    Craig, are you serious? What part of the country are (or were) you in? The northeast? Could John's inside sources at Ibanez confirm any of this? (Though I hope they don't want the guitars back!) I'm less suspicious about the theft scenario, since, why steal guitars only to stash them away in your attic, never to be sold? I guess you could ask the same about salvaging them: Why just leave them in the attic?   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 12:34 pm:    Just as a guess, I'd say that in the original scenario, the rail worker that took the guitars - technically - did steal them. They belonged to either the shipper, receiver or to the insurance company. So they stayed in the attic until the heat was off or because he was scared or ashamed or...   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:35 pm:    We'll get to the bottom of this.... guaranteed.   Craigjc Username: Craigjc Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:36 pm:    "Craig, are you serious? What part of the country are (or were) you in? The northeast? " I'm in Cleveland Ohio and the guitars were being shipped from Pennsylvania. That gives us a 2 state perimiter for the crash (assuming it was a direct route), and a year most likely being 1976. Yes, I'm totally serious. Exactly what the music store owner told me.   Craigjc Username: Craigjc Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 2:42 pm:    By the way, the guitar I ordered was a 2350 black, so it's obviously buried somewhere...   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 7:11 pm:    Craig, unfortunately, if the story is true, your axe could be bulldozed under. This is AMAZING! John, I think we need to get Hoshino USA on the horn here! Craig should get a free AR5000re just for his troubles.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 7:18 pm:    FYI, my wife just called to say a guitar has arrived for me. I wasn't expecting it until Monday. I can't think. My hands are sweating. I have to drive home. Now. Pictures of the V will be posted later tonight.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 11:30 pm:    To whet the appetite: I'm going to find an image host for the rest of the pics, so I can keep the high-res scans. -Chuck   Grateful66 Username: Grateful66 Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 11:38 pm:    Chuck, The V's a beauty!! But the MC400 YUM!!!   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 12:09 am:    I just splurged (literally) on a N.O.S. cloud, tail and bridge for the MC400NT. I should have those in a week. I figured, if it was going to be hanging next to this V, it had to be dressed up. Here are links to some high-res images: http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919218_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919223_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919226_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919229_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919233_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919236_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919242_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919244_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919247_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919250_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919251_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919253_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919257_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919261_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919266_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919268_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919272_o.jpg http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/5/3/2/3/8/0/webimg/ 77919274_o.jpg   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 12:17 am:    So here's a recap on my examination of the guitar. It's pretty cool to have a guitar this old, and yet, literally brand new. But then again, those strings are 30 years old and have been tight and pulling on the neck for that long. The neck looked bowed back a bit, and when I put new strings on it, there was serious buzzing at the lower frets. Sighting down the neck, I can detect a bit of a twist as well. I was beginning to get bummed out, but I got out the truss rod allen wrench and did a bit of adjusting, and it cured the buzz as well as the perceived twist. Go figure. I'm going to bring the guitar to my tech (or, more accurately, the tech at the guitar store I use) for a better setup. The only real flaw on the guitar is on the headstock, at the D tuner, where it looks like air got under the clearcoat. One of the pictures above shows it pretty clearly. Otherwise this thing is MINT MINT MINT. Did I mention it's MINT? It sounds freakin' fantastic. It's exactly as I remember it feeling when I owned one in 1976/77. -Chuck   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 12:21 am:    Oh, and here's a real guitar porn shot:   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 7:46 am:    Cuck nice guitar. The only thing is how did that make it past QC without being stamped as a second with the finish flaw at the headstock? Well anyway nice score dude. I would love to have one like that.   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 7:54 am:    Chuck!, ya man its beutiful, now is it your camera or is the color that dark?...I absolutly love it like in the pictures, it has high contrast between the wood color and the black and gold. Gotta love those super 70's huh! The strings on mine were loosened out, don't know if that is recent or original from the factory. I like to think they knew what they were doing and the strings should be loose for transport....so maybe because of the shape of the guit, it had a bit of attention from the train guy, and he did not reloosen the strings after playing... I also have to say, this is my first set neck guitar and well, you know that manual vibrato trick some dudes do with an acoustic, where they "bend the neck" and it gives a bit of vibrato using the neck...now I did not try this, but noticed that its pretty easy to change the pitch of an open string by applying minimal pressure. Is this normal on a set neck?...it seems to me that my strat bolt on is more rigid at the neck. Im thinking I have to see my Destroyer as a guitar to be careful with the neck pressure.Is this normal?...it does not go out of whack if I play agressively, you have to deliberatly put pressure on the neck, but its so littlee pressure... Anyway, congrats on that piece of history!   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 8:10 am:    Chuck - She's a beauty, alright. I'm glad you got her. Congratulations. - Pete   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 12:43 pm:    The gold plating is pretty dark. The bridge is actually more "orange" than either the V-thing or the pickup covers, too. Did you see the picture of the stuff that was in the case? There's a slip of paper with "Not Bent" on it. It's an old xerox copy. As far as tone bending when the neck bends, yes, that happens, at least with the guitars with necks as slim as these. But it can happen with any guitar if you try hard enough. I think Strat necks are made of much harder wood.   Momo Username: Momo Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 1:38 pm:    Hmmm, I had that same little bag with the truss rod /bridge tools. That audio cord could prove to be a good find also, if youre lucky or like that sound, you could 'Jimify' your tone....these old cables usually have a high end loss that is one of the basics in Hendrix sound. He used coiled cables,but I would not be surprised if that worked too for that kind of tone, its worth a try! I wonder what No dent means, I guess usually, you would want to identify the odd one WITH a dent or two!,Im trying to understand QC with a note like that and the finish on the headstock. Anyway, I dont know how you feel about the finish,I personally would not mind, as to me the killer stuff on there that is imposible to recreate with new stuff would be the amazing super 70 pups. I LOVE old magnets!   Jcmc64 Username: Jcmc64 Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 2:26 pm:    Very nice Chuck...congrats!! (u 2 momo) What a story.   Craigjc Username: Craigjc Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 9:45 am:    "This is AMAZING! John, I think we need to get Hoshino USA on the horn here! Craig should get a free AR5000re just for his troubles." Oh, I'd LOVE an AR5000re. That would surely make me forget about waiting a year for my first Ibanez !!!

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