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Author Message   Emilio Username: Emilio Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 2:54 pm:    LOOKING GOOD........... Ebay Item #280164989899   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 4:27 pm:    no reserve?   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 4:30 pm:    Doesn't look like it.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 11:40 pm:    Here in Australia, there is no "reserve price" tick box on ebay so the seller can't put a reserve price in. Also, if you have a start price and a BIN, the BIN dissapears after the first bid. I reckon this policy stinks especially the no reserve policy. Anywhere else in the world like that? six   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 11:57 pm:    If there is no reserve, the BIN will disappear once there is any bid at all on the item. If there is a reserve, the BIN will disappear after the BIN is reached. That's the way it is everywhere, I believe.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 4:26 am:    Yeah thats true but here, you can't set a reserve price at all. Ebay doesn't give you any option for a reserve price whatsoever. So you have to set a realistic starting price or start it a 99c and take a chance. It seems like a recipe for disaster as it probably attracts a lot of shill bids. six   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 10:25 am:    Six, you can't set a reserve price?! Do you mean only in the presence of a BIN, or do you mean you can't set a reserve at all?   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 6:24 am:    You can't set a reserve at all. six   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 8:22 am:    Six - There are "extra" options available to sellers when creating a listing that don't show up by default. You have to drill down to turn them on. Is it possible the reserve price is one of those? - Pete   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 10:49 am:    That would be nice but alas no. I had a conversation yesterday with a local guy here in Melbourne who has listed loads of stuff on ebay. He confirmed that there is no "reserve price" option here on Aussie ebay. "Is sucks" were his exact words. He said a lot of shilling goes on because of it. You would think ebay would have a handle on it by now wouldn't you. It also still amazes me that we, as buyers and sellers still have to inform ebay when there is a scam going on or when some •••• brain has written up a totally misleading description.... Like this: Ebay Item #130164433903 Now if that isn't misleading I don't know what is. Luckily, a few savvy ebayers have taken the time to tip others off in the Q&As. Ebay are not policing this kind of scam. six   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 12:01 pm:    OK, I give. How could I tell? Is it because the serial number has a dash (hyphen) in it? - Pete   Fox Username: Fox Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 5:23 pm:    Pete, just look at the condition.. Not from 1959, if not kept in a "time capsule".. The serial is period-correct but there are those "magic numbers" R9 in maybe 2-3 places, in pickup cavity, switch cavity and in the "control room" to indicate a reissue.. The serial 9 4281 deciphers as: 1959 reissue (9) made in year 1994 being 281. such guitar that year. This is, like Six says, a classic example of "making possible profit with as little given info as possible".. Worst case scenario with this kinda auction is two eager but ignorant buyers,who have read that 1959 LP:s are great investments, competing over a reissue. And the seller laughs all the way to bank...   Peterdryan Username: Peterdryan Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 5:50 pm:    Thanks, Fox. - Pete   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 6:49 pm:    Sorry Pete I was in bed. Fox is totally coming from the same angle as me. It's the same issue with the fake Gibsons from China (that we have covered here already). Some poor soul will bid thinking they are getting the deal of the year. Criminal. six   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 4:05 pm:    im confused? this isnt a real twin here?   Nightbird Username: Nightbird Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 4:54 am:    Hi Zenday, don't be confused - look at your mailbox!!! My name is Roger Weiler and I'm the owner of this Artwood Twin on Ebay.de - the first and only one!!! I have sent you a picture from a live gig in 1979 with my German Artrock band NEUSCHWANSTEIN. It's all original, nevermore played since 1981 and really good conserved in my home since this time! No China, no replica, no reissue!!! I'm ready for all questions. I only wish, that a real fan gets the guitar! Best regards, Roger Weiler.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 8:09 am:    Roger: Thanks for letting the ICW members know about your 2670 on ebay. Can you send me that picture (and any others that you might have showing the guitar in action) and I'll post them here for all to appreciate.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 10:00 am:    $2,800+ USD with 5 days to go. How high will it go?   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 5:57 pm:    US $6000+ ?   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 10:30 pm:    alot can happen in 5 days!   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 8:16 am:    BTW, that isn't me asking how much to ship to Melbourne Victoria in the QA's just in case anyone out there was wondering ... six   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 9:14 am:    Here's the pictures that Roger sent showing him playing his Artwood Twin with NEUSCHWANSTEIN. Roger, were you guys doing covers of Genesis songs or all original music?   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:00 am:    FYI...lots of bids from someone with Zero-feedback... mk   Nightbird Username: Nightbird Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:32 am:    Hi John, we only played our own music, no covers of Genesis. You can get the CD "Battlement" or mp3 at www.musearecords.com - enter "Neuschwanstein". If you like the music of Genesis in the Gabriel era, be sure to love this album. Thank you for setting the pictures. And thank you, folks, for your interest. I'm glad about the feedback and all the mails from John and Six...   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 10:05 pm:    Great shots. They remind me of the Good Old Days when I was young, free and single. Most emphasis on the young six   Blondax Username: Blondax Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 2:56 pm:    just had to drop in to say wow, what a beauty of a beast. awesome dream machine. good luck with the auction. looks like things are heading the right way for you nightbird. cheers.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 9:09 pm:    Roger, good luck with your sale. Your twin looks really nice.   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 12:04 am:    cool pics!   Nightbird Username: Nightbird Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2007 - 5:35 am:    Hey folks, thank you for your great wishes. It's really good to realize how many freaks and "brothers in arms" there are in the whole universe... Hope it will take the right way... Best, Roger The Nightbird.   Jacko Username: Jacko Registered: 10-2007 Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:11 pm:    Roger, I remember you guys! I grew up in Mannheim. Good Luck with your guitar, It's going be fun watching it in the last hours!!   Nightbird Username: Nightbird Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 3:13 am:    Hi Jacko, I hope so... and hope you've enjoyed the show in the "good old times"... Best, Roger.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, November 09, 2007 - 9:32 am:    Did anyone notice that Roger's Artwood Twin went for EUR 4,009.00, (approximately US $5,889.62). Not too bad Roger. Not too bad of an investment, either. The US list price for the 2670 with case was $2150.00. Street price was probably less, though. I wonder if the winner (sal592) is an ICW member? He's from the Netherlands and has done some deals with other ICW members.

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