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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 8:09 pm: | |
I just got back from Jacko's house and handling/assessing the Artwood Twin which has been associated with Gerry Beckly of the band America. As Jacko has stated before, she received the guitar to settle a debt and the person she got it from said they had obtained it from Gerry. Jacko has a copy of a live album America put out that has a picture of Gerry playing an Artwood Twin. I took numerous photos of the guitar and have posted them on my website, in high-res format for everyone to view. They are here:
http://www.chucke.com/artwood
(Note: There's over 50MB of photos there, so it will take time for them to load. IbanezFreak, if you want me to upload the other photos Jacko sent you, send them to me at chucke@chucke.com.)
The first picture is of me holding the guitar, and the second is a composite I put together to compare the grain of the guitar pictured on the sleeve of the America live album to the guitar that Jacko has. The top pictures are from the sleeve, the bottom ones (rotated to be at the same angle) are the ones I took. On the left, the pictures have been enhanced to bring out the grain patterns. On the right, I've circled a few spots where you can see specific identifying features. I'm no fingerprint forensic scientist, but that's the same guitar. Of note, there is a "beauty mark" (circled by the oval) that is present on both pictures.
Next, to the overall condition of the guitar.
I tuned up and played the guitar, and the necks are straight with no buzzing frets. All the electronic positions (switches, knobs) work, though there is some scratchiness when switching between pickups. I would recommend a thorough electronics clean-up if this is to be played on stage. All hardware on the guitar is original. The gold plating on the clouds/tailpieces is in great shape, with very little pitting. There is wear to the gold plating on each of the pickups, no doubt from Gerry's sweaty hands. There is minor buckle rash in the center of the body on the back. There is one noticeable finish ding (less than 1/4" round) on the front, near the top edge. There is a picture of this ding. Running my hands over the backs of the neck, there are a few minor rough spots on the six-string neck. The binding is solid, with no cracks, anywhere. I checked the necks, headstocks, and all around the body. The binding is nicely yellowed. There are some very minor dings at the tops of the headstocks, also pictured. The case is in great shape inside, is scuffed up outside, and one of the latches (right side) is broken. The other two latches work fine.
Value: I was very honest with Jacko on my opinion of the value of this thing. We all saw the antique violin twin go for $6,000 a few months ago. There is another Artwood Twin on German eBay as we speak. That this was Gerry Beckly's guitar only adds to the collectability and value. Jacko has also been advised by someone else from this board that the guitar is worth at least $5,500 to $6,000, even if it isn't Gerry's, and I agree. But it is (or, was) Gerry's.
I'm torn about this thing. It could easily be worth more than $10,000, if the right parties were interested. But then again (and I told this to Jacko) most of the interested parties are probably already members of ICW and are reading this right now. If the European members get involved, it could be worth even more. I've advised her (and she's free to ignore this advice) that if she can get $6,000 or more for it from someone at ICW, she should probably take it. If she can't, it's worth trying to sell it on eBay with a $6,000 reserve.
I also want to make it clear that I am NOT in the market to purchase this guitar myself. I don't have $6,000 (or even half or a quarter of that amount, for that matter). I hope someone at ICW gets it, but I also hope she gets a fair price for it.
I've also advised her that if she does sell to someone oversees, she should bring the guitar in its case to UPS and have them pack it for shipment, which itself can cost $60. Shipping to Europe, and even to the US, will be expensive, because the thing is huge and heavy. Still, if you're investing over $6,000 in a guitar of this caliber, the shipping costs are immaterial.
-Chuck
PS. Here's the comparison photo I posted, sized down:
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 8:55 pm: | |
Nice work on the pictures, Chuck. Gotta' agree, this is Gerry's guitar. The grain is a match. |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 9:49 pm: | |
Chucks Jacko's emails are in your box! There are 4 of them. They are 2 different addreses. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 10:19 pm: | |
Thanks, Freak. I uploaded a few of those that show different angles, etc. I also added a circle to the large scan that shows the one ding on the front of the guitar. |
Jcmc64
Username: Jcmc64
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 12:05 am: | |
Hey Chuck, how did it feel to be holding so much history, in so many ways?! Way too cool bro!
yep...follow that grain between the bridges, out towards the bottom strap pin- wide gap, followed by tiny narrow gap. Perfect match. Amazing. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 3:23 am: | |
I can't believe how amazing the pictures are! Great work Chuck! Thank you!!!
I'll be out of town for a couple of days and will not have access to the internet, so if I don't respond to emails that's why. I'll get back in touch when I get home. -- Jacko |
Emilio
Username: Emilio
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 12:05 pm: | |
Great job Chuck!
Amazing ,thanks!
cheers
emilio |
Spiro
Username: Spiro
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 9:16 pm: | |
Wow what a score..
Pity the damage has started on that guitar.
Binding on neck and around headstock is gassing off..
After chin hons guitars I wouldnt want to go down that path again.. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 11:43 am: | |
What damage? What guitar? |
Zenday
Username: Zenday
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 3:54 pm: | |
Wow its aweome im here to witness this find!!!!! amazing stuff!!
wish i had the cash! |
Doubleone
Username: Doubleone
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 8:38 pm: | |
Hey, Great pics Chuck,considering this wasen't a "CASE QUEEN"....... Gerry used it as a touring instrument its in very nice condition,the patina on the guitar looks great, the binding has aged nicely. Thorn's sunburst Arty sold for BIG $$$ so one would think...............if this were mine and someone offered me $6,000.00 I'd be inclined to sell it...........its not so who knows what it might bring in the open arena. [Ebay] anybody remember what Gerrys 2640 sold for?......he had it posted here in the classifieds and it was on Ebay at some point correct? Hope this one goes to someone here and stays in the fold. D1 |
Spiro
Username: Spiro
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 11:16 pm: | |
the artwood twin in the photos.. look at thr fret ends they have the beginnings of the binding gassing out...
just like in the thread below but on the binding
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/57 51/9918.html |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 12:53 pm: | |
Spiro, no doubt, this twin deserves a top to bottom restoration. There is some rusting at the fret ends, the electronics are a bit crackly, etc. But cleaned up, it will be the crown jewel to any collection. The German twin, with three days to go, is already at $4,500 USD. I'll say this again, IMHO, if someone can grab Gerry's twin for $6K, they would be making the deal of the century.
-Chuck |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 26, 2007 - 3:13 pm: | |
Hello everyone! I'm watching Roger Weiler's guitar too. Interesting posts. I sold a
Selmer Mark VI low serial # 1953 A. Sax, beat up and rusting, about 15 years ago for $3,000.00 that would be worth $10,000.00 today in that same condition. An investment is an investment... I'll make a decision in a week. Thanks everyone! Chuck, those pictures are just fantastic!! |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 5:02 pm: | |
Hi again, I have emails with offers up to $4,500.
No luck getting hold of Gerry. If we don't hear from him, that might be something the new owner would like to do. (If there is still no luck). Some of you would like me to tell you what the offers are so that you can or cannot beat it. -- If you are interested, please leave an email w/ a dollar amount. If the offers remain low then I will most likely put her on the bay. I will look into shipping options and costs this week. If anyone has advice for her safest journey please let me know, I want her to go first class.
Thanks. Jacko. |
Spiro
Username: Spiro
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 3:49 am: | |
hey chucke99
I dont think you understand.
the binding is deteriorating and cannot be stopped it will need a complete strip of binding and replacement which will be in the thousands of dollars.. |
Munch
Username: Munch
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 5:24 am: | |
Hi Spiro,
I know exactly what you mean. My Iceman suffered badly from the tortise pickup surround gassing off.
With this Artwood Twin, its really anybody's guess just how long it will take for the binding to start breaking down physically.
Keeping it in its case will accelerate the process that's for sure. Personally I'd bet that if it was left out of its case, the deterioration would slow to a snails pace. I bet you'd easily get another 20 years out of it (at least) without needing to do anything with the binding, so long as its in the open air.
Cheers,
Mark |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 10:20 am: | |
What I see in the photos I took, and what I saw in person, is that there is some rusting of the frets at the edges, near the binding. I don't see anything like the deterioration described and shown in the other thread. Certainly, the binding all around the guitar is very solid. No cracks. Yellowed, but not deteriorating. I'm not a luthier, though, so I guess people should make their own decision.
-Chuck |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 1:56 pm: | |
Most frets are made of nickel or nickel/silver and they won't rust. They may get discolored but.. This does look like a gassing issue in its early stages. |
Sarahplease
Username: Sarahplease
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 6:01 pm: | |
I'm not a guitar afficianado, but I am a huge America fan. I have a feeling Gerry doesn't want the guitar back, because he's got more than 50 in his collection right now. I hope you get your price jacko! Personally, if I bought this guitar (and I wish I had that kind of $$$ to spend), I wouldn't change a thing about it, because I believe that removes the provenance. The guitar might age as time moves on, but I wouldn't play it, I'd just enjoy having it and looking at it, remembering all the history behind it. I guess real guitar aficianados would disagree with this philosophy, but I'm looking it as a fan and a collector. |
Cleversj
Username: Cleversj
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:52 pm: | |
Munch,
Nice analysis, however once it starts, it won;t stop. The best thing is to remove humidity and decrease temperature, however we all known what low temperature does to a guitar. Since Jacko is in Seattle, the temperature will not be a problem, however, humidity will be. The case should have a humidistat in it at the least to decrease corrosion. |
Spiro
Username: Spiro
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 4:02 am: | |
Hey cleversj thats right !
once it starts it doesnt stop..
The guitar that chin hon bought i gave up buying originally in 1999.. It had no issues at the time.. in 2005 it was unplayable.. so in 5 years it went from being in near pristine condition to what you see in the photos in the other thread...
I have seen this happen alot. Its like cancer or even rust in a car, you can control it but eventually you will need to cut it out.. All I am saying is that if I was buying this guitar i would factor in the cost of a total binding replacement.. I am in the process of this with another guitar at the moment..
the six string headstock is showing signs of it starting under the lacquer as well. have a look at how brown it is..
Just my 2 cents |
Jimmys
Username: Jimmys
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 7:32 am: | |
I have seen the same thing on an 84 AR305 and on my 2681 in the binding in the cutaways. Strangely, I have not seen it on any other Artists that I have. The 2681 is in a gig bag but I guess I should take it out and hang it up somewhere now! |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 8:40 am: | |
If this condition does exist with this guitar, what caused it? I wouldn't have even noticed it if it wasn't mentioned. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 2:12 pm: | |
I found a great place for this guitar.
http://www.accessbackstage.com/america/mus_g.htm
Wouldn't that be nice, and we'd all have a part in the history of it's return.
I am not giving up yet, but as I said I will make a decision Nov. 2nd.
Thanks for all the input. |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 01, 2007 - 9:47 am: | |
Jacko:
I'm sure there's a good reason, but I wonder what made Gerry give up the guitar in the first place? Why he wouldn't want it back is also a mystery.
It really would be cool to hear from him. Not just to confirm that it's his (I think the pictures and Chuck's observations have established that), but to get his POV on his history with this beauty. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 02, 2007 - 11:29 pm: | |
I have two offers that are reasonable and exactly the same. One from a guitar player, one from an America fan. I will let you all know where this goes. I don't exactly want to do offer wars- that's for the bay. I have emailed both guys today. I will talk to them before selling. I will keep you all posted.
I've got music by "Fresh Air" playing in the back ground and it's making me feel all sappy about her inevidable departure. 
She is indeed a crown jewel. |
Cleversj
Username: Cleversj
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 11:57 am: | |
Bobzilla,
There are a number of origins of the degradation of the fret metal. As we put it, moisture corrodes the gold plating on the pups, however gold is inert and therefor not susceptible to corrosion. In example, have you ever seen a gold wedding ring rust? No you haven't. Copper rings on the other hand change color and continue to change color because of the chemistry in ones body fluids. So moisture from your hands isn't killing the pups. It is the acid formed from chemicals in the skin and the environment combined with abrasion that kill the gold.
Anyways back to the frets, combine gas with water and you most certainly will get acid. Stainless steel (and then only some grades) is the real answer to the pitting corrosion of the frets, but you still have water (moisture from hands and in wood) and chemicals from everything we place our hands in. There ain't no stopping it. You can control it, but as the guitar gets older, the corrosion increases due to the nature of the chemical reactions present.
In short the only remedy is to use stainless steel and a dry cloth to clean the neck after playing and leave the guitar in a humidity controlled environment to minimize the degradation. Since that is not practical, leave the guitar in open air and clean it regularly. Some particulate matter in dust forms complex organic compounds and light acids. You can't stop it. It is a law of physics and chemistry.
Now that I have freaked everybody out, when will the fire sale begin on eBay? |
Jcmc64
Username: Jcmc64
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2007 - 8:19 pm: | |
Clever, I believe in this case, Spiro is speaking more of the gassing off from the binding materials, or process... and in other cases the Tortoise shell materials used.
It is odd how so many of them that have the issue are worst around the cut aways, and fretboard at upper frets. Seen this sooo many times, including the recent one up on ebay that finally sold. I have seen it very random patterns too. Like, top of Fret board binding real bad, bottom of fretboard binding fine. But almost all of them that I have seen have the worst of the binding degrade at the very upper frets, usually 12th and higher...where there is usally less playwear, and at the cut aways. Real bizarre patterns. I have a PF 400 that is this way. Then I have another PF 400 that is perfect. Both are 78, though the one that has the issue is an very early script logo version. There seems to be no real info on why some in same year, even close in the serial # run, behave totally different. I know so of this can be explained by comparing enviroments stored in, but seems not all are explained by that alone (from what I've read on ICW). I know that the cut aways are usually where the thickest part of the binding material is, which might have something to do with it...time for "Mythbusters" to investigate. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 9:50 am: | |
Clever, not freaked out at all.. impressed.
I'll be putting her on the bay this upcoming week. You'll all be the 1st to know. |
Cleversj
Username: Cleversj
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2007 - 10:28 pm: | |
Jacko,
thought you had a buyer in mind, one of two actually. Did they fall thru? My offer of common law still stands. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 05, 2007 - 1:57 pm: | |
Maybe it's wherever a "curve" is. maybe the strraighter stuff hold up better. I've owned a bunch of Ibanezes over the years and I've never had the problem on any of them. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 12:46 pm: | |
I understand I am having problems with people sending me emails. That may be why I am not hearing back from my 2 big offers. If anyone who sent emails is reading this, I am going to send out a different email address to all that have emailed me. Sorry for the technical difficulties. Stay tuned.. Jacko.
Cleversj, I will consider marriage offers from those who can keep me in the style I would like to become accustomed to. |
Jcmc64
Username: Jcmc64
Registered: 6-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2007 - 3:38 pm: | |
What I can offer --- I have a beautiful mobile home over looking a gorgeous lot...dont mind the tire dump, the city promises to remove them eventually, its just that it provides shelter to the homeless in our area at the moment... it can all be yours... for the AWT! |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 08, 2007 - 12:57 pm: | |
Jcmc64, as tempting as that offer may be, I'm still holding out for a good milkin' cow.
I've heard back from my reasonable offers and have chosen one. She has a new home pending and I am very pleased with the decision. She will get all the TLC she needs.
Thank you all. --- Jacko |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, November 10, 2007 - 12:58 pm: | |
Is it an ICW member Jacko? |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 12, 2007 - 10:14 pm: | |
No, it is not an ICW member. - He will send pictures of her after her restoration. I'll keep in touch. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 1:52 pm: | |
In Germany, an Artwood Twin with a BIN of $11,717.34!!!
Ebay Item #160179997660 |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 2:35 pm: | |
Thats a reissue 2670re. |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 5:19 pm: | |
Ah, now we know where #42 is! |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 1:03 pm: | |
Hello my sweetiekins, Here's what happened with the sale of the twins: Buyer is in UK and wanted to wire money, and have it shipped to his address in Florida. Buyer wanted to wire money, needing my Bank info. I was not comfortable with that. He was going to send a UK version of a bank order. My Banker Guy said there was a big UK to USA Money Order scam going on and that my Bank would indeed release the money to me, but that it might not officially be available for 8 weeks - 6 months, and if it turns out to be not good, then I would have to pay the money back to the bank... So I emailed Buyer that I would feel more comfortable going through Paypal and that he could just transfer money from his account to my Paypal account. I have emailed him this information 3 times, and have not heard back from him. This is not good, but posibly very good! I will put her on ebay next week enless anyone wants her for the $6,000.00 + S&H. The America fan's no longer interested. (The reserve will be less than 6k) in case that makes a difference. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:17 pm: | |
Jacko, sorry to hear about the UK guy. Sounds like a scam to me and I think you did good to avoid it. If you want help with the eBay posting or for fielding questions about the guitar, let me know.
-Chuck |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 2:42 pm: | |
OK, folks. I just got off the phone with Jacko and I am pleased to announce that she's accepted my offer to purchase the Beckley Artwood Twin for $6,000. So she (the guitar) stays in the ICW family and I can finally sleep at night. I'll post a lot more pictures when I get it, probably early next week.
-Chuck |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:09 pm: | |
Jacko... if it walks like a snake, talks like a snake, smells like a snake... it's a snake. Too bad it fell through but it's for the best.
I guess we'd all like to see an ICW member get that axe however... if you do wind up putting it up on Ebay, you'll probably do real well with it. I'm sorry my offer didn't get me the guitar, I'd love to have it. Then again, I think I should own every nice guitar ever built but... I digress.
Your other option is to keep the guitar, form a band, make millions with the guitar.
Girl bands have a knack of doing pretty good for themselves, just for the fact that it's girls with guitars. (Which is pretty much all you need in life. Girls/guitars) I don't think guys really give a hoot about whether or not girls can actually play so... don't let that hold you back. You would really just need a catchy name for the band that should incorporate some naughty inuendo in it. You'll be rich. You get to keep the guitar too. You can hire those Chippendale guys as your roadies... Open up for Mr. Cobain's wife... tour the world and elsewhere! make the cover of Rolling Stone. Trash hotel rooms for grins. Turn down Oprah's repeated requests for an interview, not because you're too busy, just because you can't stand Oprah and besides, it would just get Dave Letterman angry if you went on Oprah and... it's a known fact that it's never a good idea to get Dave all riled up.
best of luck with the sale and/or your band and... Oprah. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:21 pm: | |
Chuck... we musta been posting simultaneously there, you beat me and... Congrats!! Awesome!
Oprah will have to wait. |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 3:23 pm: | |
Chuck congrats. Glad YOU got it! |
Cleversj
Username: Cleversj
Registered: 11-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 4:21 pm: | |
Chuck,
So happy to hear that an ICW member now owns this piece of history. Hope you enjoy this gem. |
Grateful66
Username: Grateful66
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 5:15 pm: | |
Congrats Chuck! Awesome weapon. |
Chazmo
Username: Chazmo
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2007 - 6:46 pm: | |
Straight up, Chuck! Congrats!!!!! |
Harry
Username: Harry
Registered: 3-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:55 am: | |
Chuck!
WOOOOOW!!!!!!!
Great that you´re gonna get this piece of Ibanez history!
Worship it!
Harry |
Munch
Username: Munch
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:59 am: | |
Hi Chuck,
What a lucky devil! First the Crazy Train Flying v and now Jerry Beckley's Artwood Twin?
Amazing Amazing Amazing!!!
Cheers,
Mark |
Emilio
Username: Emilio
Registered: 9-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 8:31 am: | |
wow wow wow!!!
CONGRATULATIONS CHUCK!
enjoy
cheers
emilio |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 9:28 am: | |
Thanks all. I hope I do her justice. Mark I was lucky to get the V (right place, right time). The Artwood just took tons of $$. lol |
Peterdryan
Username: Peterdryan
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 1:53 pm: | |
Congrats, Chuck!
That's a sweet acquisition.
How big was the diamond you had to buy your wife?
;)
- Pete |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 2:13 pm: | |
She was drooling over that guitar when I went to see it in October, so she's onboard with me getting it as an "investment". Plus, I have to buy her a puppy. |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 8:18 am: | |
Chuck...You'll have to find a two-headed puppy then, it's only fair. |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 1:51 pm: | |
Bobzilla, that's funny!!
Hi everyone, I am soooooo happy Chuck is getting her!! Congrats Chuck --- This is a Happy fairytale ending (beginning) for Her Highness (The Twin)! Me (Her Highness) too!--- OK OK, I'm a girl- we tend to slip into fairytale mode sometimes! Kinda like Bobzilla slipped into Fantasy land with the all girl sexy band thing. |
Peterdryan
Username: Peterdryan
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:13 pm: | |
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:49 pm: | |
She might actually go for that dog. lol |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 1:27 pm: | |
I want that dog. Just put my bulldog Roxy down about 2 months ago. Great breed these bulldogs. I think everyone is thrilled that Chuck landed this one, it's like keeeping it in the family a bit. Jacko should be thanked for bring it to ICW attention. |
Chipsotoole
Username: Chipsotoole
Registered: 2-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 10:56 pm: | |
Nice one Chuck! |
Jacko
Username: Jacko
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 6:40 pm: | |
Chuck just left my house. She's officially adopted, and has a fairytale ending to this part of her life. I look forward to hearing about her new adventures and progress.
I am greatful to all of you.
Congratulate Chuck some more.. He's so proud and Happy, you should have seen him!! |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 8:51 pm: | |
Here she is, fresh from Jacko's house. I'm going to do a complete cleaning and will document it in hi-res along the way. There are some interesting Japanese characters in the control cavity I'd like to get translated. Then it will be off to my "luthier" (fancy name for the guy who repairs guitars at the local guitar shop) for a complete setup.
-Papa Chuck |
Zenday
Username: Zenday
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:28 pm: | |
Wow!!
I'm so happy for you!!! I know how it feels!!!!
congrats!!! |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:31 pm: | |
thanks, Zenday. How's the RE treating you? |
Roland_g303
Username: Roland_g303
Registered: 5-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:44 pm: | |
Awesome guitar Chuck!
Patrick |
Peterdryan
Username: Peterdryan
Registered: 6-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 9:55 pm: | |
Lucky dog! |
Grateful66
Username: Grateful66
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 10:09 pm: | |
Awesome week Chuck. I'm pretty sure you get the Game Ball. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Thursday, December 06, 2007 - 12:39 am: | |
LOL. Thanks Grateful. It certainly was an expensive ball. Here's a shot of me and the lady:
I'll put other shots together and post a URL for them, rather than take up space at ICW.
-Chuck |
Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla
Registered: 2-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 7:25 am: | |
Congrats Chuck. Think of the songs that came out of her and the history attached. beautiful guitar! |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 2:47 pm: | |
I know, Bob. I never was an America fan, but I've ordered the "America Live" album from Amazon.com so I can hear the songs the guitar is used on. I'm also trying to track down an original 1978 Ibanez Complete catalog, since it has a photo of Gerry and the guitar in it. |
Trisound
Username: Trisound
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 4:48 pm: | |
Congrats Chucke!!! Glad that you got her... |
Mongo
Username: Mongo
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 2:42 pm: | |
Chucke,
You may already have this, but if you don't, here's a link to the PDF for the catalog. It's on page #3.
http://www.t3-kundenserver.de/htmlpages/redasys/_c ore/databases/t_meinl-uploads/1978_gesamt.pdf
Mongo |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 3:51 pm: | |
Thanks, Mongo. I do have that PDF of the catalog. I've got a line on an original hardcopy of the catalog that I should have shortly. |
Mongo
Username: Mongo
Registered: 12-2007
| | Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 5:07 pm: | |
Cool. Beautiful piece of history there. |
Chucke99
Username: Chucke99
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 2:30 am: | |
The Guitar Tour Gallery pages on ICW state, about the original Artwood Twins: "According to Michael Wright's, Guitar Stories, Vol. 1, there were only supposed to be 12 made." Is that 12 with the spaghetti logo, or twelve overall? Is that for real? Surely there must be more than 12. Has anyone ever confirmed that number with one of the contacts with Hoshino? |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 12, 2007 - 1:34 pm: | |
Chuck:
That's one of the first "myths" that we smashed back in the early days of the site. I just never updated the GT page.
Here's the relevant thread (83 messages long): Vintage & Custom Electrics (1970s Only - Over 2 years) » Only 12 Artwood Twins...Fact or Heresay?
And here's some production figures from Cameron: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/sho w.cgi?tpc=1004543&post=9997#POST9997 |