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Blondax
Username: Blondax

Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 1:50 pm:   

is this for real? looks sweet but seems a tad spendy to put it mildly...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ULTRA-RARE-Ibanez-Custom-Les-P aul_W0QQitemZ270185921287QQihZ017QQcategoryZ2384QQ rdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
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Talajuha
Username: Talajuha

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 2:49 pm:   

Ebay Item #270185921287
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Jcmc64
Username: Jcmc64

Registered: 6-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:21 am:   

Friggin ridiculous.
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:26 am:   

speachless!
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Blondax
Username: Blondax

Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:36 am:   

i just noticed it's described as 'hollow body' in the listing! what's up with that? i'd like to know if it's even a set neck or bolt on, but i can't decide if it's a joke or not...
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Fox
Username: Fox

Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 6:54 am:   

Blondax, the Custom Agent is really sort of hollow... Although I would not call it "hollow body" though.
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 9:35 am:   

Except for the D and the 5, that serial number would have been something special.
D777577
G777777 would make 7x7
Perhaps interesting for Redscuderia, who likes to play with numbers too.

For the rest it looks like an ordinary sunburst with the wrong pickguard.


Ginger
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 1:37 pm:   

Ginger...Keep in mind that its a '77-much less desireable than the pre serial number ones
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:30 pm:   

I was just referring at the numbers.
Remember the prices Redscuderia asked and got for his guitars?
$1978.- for a 1978 Challenger NT
$1983.- for a 1983 Artist AR... (I think 300),
he's probably our best salesman on board.

Personally I don't connect higher values to just beautiful serial numbers. I'm just interested in the systematic structure of them: what do they tell us about the guitar?
The ones without a serial number tell us... yeah what? Nothing actually: either they're from before August 1975, or they forgot to number the guitar, or the number was filed away because the instrument was stolen...

But when I see the Ibanez logo on the pickup covers my heartbeat goes up too...
And I like that flower pot headstock inlay more than that bug inlay...

But 7 times 7 might bring us some luck.


Ginger
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Ekkerman
Username: Ekkerman

Registered: 7-2004
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 10:48 am:   

guess its just me but i never could dig these copy's and realy dont like the ornament on the body below the tail!
guess i"ll stick with my artists ...
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 4:01 pm:   

I know that ornament is kind of kitsch, but I just love that f-mandolin curl (with a flowerpot of course).

Whether I will ever buy a Custom Agent depends on the price and what I can spend at that moment. It is interesting, but not a "must-have". I always keep in mind that "must-haves" don't exist. I must have a good classical guitar (non cutaway + a cutaway with pre-amp, a good flattop steelstring (if I may keep only one, it must be with pre-amp), a good electric and a good bass with a not to long neck, a good mandolin, an electric mandolin, a good mandola, a good octave mandolin, a good ukelele. So if really necessary, I could perhaps sell 40 instruments without suffering a real musical loss.
But I have noticed over the years how fast cash runs through my fingers, and how high inflation actually is, and how low the interests.
I think my collection is my best bank.

Dave, what's your opinion on that, being the Sultan of ICW?


Ginger
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 9:00 pm:   

Ginger, all I can say is that collectables , including vintage guitars, is one of the best hedges against inflation next to real estate. The problem I have is that it is very difficult to let any of them go......
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 22, 2007 - 9:51 pm:   

I have the same problem. They are far more beautiful than Euros, which are disgusting ugly compared to the 1990s designs of our Dutch guilders. We had collectible 10-1000 guilder bills. What we have now is bad printed rubbish, printed all over Europe by bad printers. All uniformity is gone. These bills would have been destroyed at Johan Enschede's in Holland, they are really that bad.

Anyway, being able to spend money is a nice feeling but money in its form is not a desirable object. It takes less storage room, that's a fact.


Ginger
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Blondax
Username: Blondax

Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 12:43 pm:   

great discussion about collectiblity and investment. :-) but i've gotta wonder how good an investment this axe would be at the asking price! maybe if willed to my grandkids they'd turn a profit. `~)
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 5:05 pm:   

At this price... you'd probably make a loss of $2000-2300.


Ginger
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Tbplayer
Username: Tbplayer

Registered: 4-2007
Posted on Friday, November 23, 2007 - 9:58 pm:   

uhhh, i'm a little clueless as to his description as a"one of a kind". it looks like a CA with the wrong pickguard to me. am i missing something here guys?
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 12:07 am:   

TB, ya didn't miss a thing and judging by the number of bids, neither did anyone else
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Artfield
Username: Artfield

Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 12:53 pm:   

Here is one for sale in Belgium, have a look at the price

http://www.2dehands.be/ibanez-custom-agent-bj-1973 -26479051.html
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 5:11 pm:   

That used to be mine. Actually, that picture was taken in my livingroom......... I sold it about four months ago for less than half that money.

P@ul
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 8:07 pm:   

It's a very old ad from August. Lieven vd Vondel bid €900.- then. But in the mean time he found one so... that's one bidder less.
But Paul, I thought the one he bought in Eindhoven had been yours. Or was Robbie advertising from several locations? I know he tried to get €1600.- through eBay without success, asked €1250.- in his shop and sold to Lieven for less then €1000.-

Are we talking 1, 2 or 3 guitars here?
Let's say it's one and the same guitar...haha...
If you would calculate the fuel the transport of this guitar would have cost already it wouldn't get any cheaper, would it?

Anyway, €1600.- is way too much.


Ginger
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Saturday, November 24, 2007 - 10:13 pm:   

I sold it to Robby, who resold it to Lieven......
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 12:53 am:   

So that means Lieven is bidding €900.- on his own guitar... on the 29th of August, but he bought the guitar from Robbie for less than €1000.- in October.

That doesn't make sense. How could the guitar have been for sale in Belgium in August, when it was standing in Eindhoven in October?

They should have given this thing a serial number...
It seems to have free European transport already, it travels like Prince Friso's delivery service, when he was a student.


Ginger

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