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MSASAP
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

1979 IBANEZ ARTWOOD TWIN DOUBLE NECK WITH TREE OF LIFE PEARL INLAY ON BOTH NECKS. BEAUTIFUL GUITAR THAT IS EXCEEDINGLY RARE. MINT CONDITION, LOOKS NEW, GOLD HARDWARE. PEARL TUNING KEYS. COMES WITH FLIGHT CASE. $4000.00.
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JIM MORRISON
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

MSASAP:

DON'T YOU HONESTLY THINK THAT YOUR PRICE IS JUST A LITTLE TOO HIGH?

EVEN FOR ARTWOOD TWIN W/TREE OF LIFE.............
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JTC
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

Really,man, get somewhat real. Gibson 1275 doublenecks only fetch around $2000-2200. Toss in the rarity/coolness factor of the Ibanez and you may be in the same range, but that's really stretching it. Frankly, I'd rather spend the bucks to look like Jimmy Page than Denny Laine (wings), or whichever-the-hell one of the Eagles also used that axe. Wait... you're not Don Henley having a garage sale, are you?
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Bobby E. Day Jr.
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

I didn't think Ibanez had anything worth $4000! (Well, not yet anyway.)
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Evert Jepma
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

I guess the gold hardware is 24K.
Or the necks have tree of real life inlay......
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mike g.
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

Maybe he thought that the maniac would bite.

I'd rather buy 3 Flamed Johnny Smiths.
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mikki c.
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

Make it $400.00, and your on !!!
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JTC
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

In fairness, maybe we should hear from MSASAP as to whether or not he or she would like to revise the asking price in the face of overwhelming derision.
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JohnS
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

How about this, let's not turn the Classified section into a forum to "deride" folks who want to buy or sell. People should be free to ask whatever they want. If someone is interested in the item but the price is not to their liking, then make an offer and handle the negotiations in private conversations.

There are other sections of this Discussion board that are provided to discuss particular guitars and what they are worth.

Let's keep the Classifieds section as lean as possible. That means no replies to posts.

Thanks for supporting Ibanez Collectors World,
JohnS (the management)
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orval
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

thanks john,
it was beginning to look a bit like the
vintage guitar whiners site. i wish i had
an extra 4 bills. anyone have one for less?
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Harold
Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:01 am:   

Hello everybody!
My guess is that "MSASAP" was just testing the waters.
Since this is an "Ibanez Collectors Site" what better place to drop the Artwood Twin "A-bomb." It appears to have generated a hughe "radio-active dust cloud." It is possible that some day (not to far away, maybe light-years away, who knows for certain), Artwood Twins will easily bring in $4K.
As you all know anything is possible with Ebay! All it takes is one person wanting one bad enough. In any given situation if enough people at the 'same time' have the 'same wants/interest/desires/lust' an Artwood Twin could bring in $4K in the market place. It's called 'Supply and Demand.'
I would assume at present the demand for Artwood Twins is far below the expectations of MSASAP. This is a free country and people have the freedom to 'Test the Waters' as well as ask whatever price they want.

In a spirit of fairness,
Harold
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Ray L.
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 1:39 am:   

I have an Artwood 2670 twin neck with flight case and manual I bought new in 1979 for 1650.00. I even still have the little tuning key spanner and trussrod wrench and I wouldn't take 4000.00 for it now,(if I WOULD sell it). I'd sure like to find the original sales catalog which shows it on the back page though...
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Sdkonnagan (Sdkonnagan)
Posted on Monday, January 21, 2002 - 3:51 pm:   

I'm waiting on pictures from a seller who apparently has an Artwood and a Weir - both with vine inlays - that will only be sold together. Said he would provide an asking price after I review the photos. Sounds like I might need to talk to a banker about a loan.....
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Maniac (Maniac)
Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2002 - 11:21 pm:   

Scotty,

After seeing the price of the 2681 on Ebay,I can't imagine what a seller would want for both !
I wonder if he would be interested in my boat ?
:)

Mike G.
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Sdkonnagan (Sdkonnagan)
Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   

He might not be interested in your boat, but I would....if you loaded it with all your Ibanez axes. :)

Scott
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sixvsix
Posted on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 7:23 pm:   

Lets get some perspective on this. I worked in a music shop in the late 70’s. We were selling 2670 Artwood’s for £915 (if anyone had the money). No one did so, we didn’t sell any. In 1995 I paid £400 for one. This guitar was in brown sunburst but had the block logo (like the new ones) on both headstocks and Super 80 pickups loaded into it (factory fitted). I sold it in 1998 because I didn’t have anywhere to put it (anyone out there who’s got one will know that the case is as big as a coffee table). After weeks of advertising I sold it to a guy in Manchester for £600. It was in first class condition and looked fantastic. So I would say that £915 was a reasonable offer. What goes around comes around I suppose.
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 3:28 pm:   

Here's a picture of Sixvsix's very rare Artwood Twin. I only know of two brownburts and this is one of them. (Apologies to Six, he sent this in June, but I forgot about it.)

Six, you want to add anything to the story?

BrownArtwoodTwin
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 9:57 am:   

Is this an actual pic of your guitar, cos it looks like a catalog scan to me...
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 12:33 pm:   

Tim:

This is from a photo of the actual guitar. I cut out the background and added the shadow. Sixvsix sent another photo of the Twin sitting next to his Randy Scruggs, also.

Six sold this guitar to someone in Manchester in 1998, btw. So all he has left are memories and pictures of one of the rarest and most collectible Ibanez guitars.

It would be cool if we could find the current owner.
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 3:11 pm:   

I wish I'd seen it advertised in 1998! I just got the one in Greece for £1000. Still a good price though, when you consider that some PRS guitars are almost £3000 now in the UK. Maybe I'll have to sell something else now, but I REALLY don't want to...
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 5:20 pm:   

Hello

Sorry. Couldn't answer your questions guys as I've been in Spain for a week.

Tim

You could have had my one back then for £750. So I think you done pretty well getting that big ole' Coffee table for £1000. Plus it looks like an early one too.

The pic I sent to John has the scruggs next to it yes. I can email you some additional pics if you're interested in seeing other shots of the guitar for reference.

I've tried to load up some pics on the site lately but have had real problems. Perhaps I'll send them all to John for a "Whats in your collection" (past/present)addition to that thread.

It is a shame but I have no idea where that twin ended up. It could be still over here but as I explained to John the guy I sold it to bought it for a "name" player. So who knows?

six
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Tuesday, September 24, 2002 - 8:10 pm:   

What were the tuners on yours? I've only seen star or pearloid ones on twins. Also it's seems odd to have the old style bridges with super 80 pickups. Transitional period, or another rare oddity?
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Wednesday, September 25, 2002 - 8:43 pm:   

Hi Tim
It had the Grover type Goto tuners with 'Ibanez' (no star) on the back. You're right about the bridges being the older model and both had minimal wear on the saddles. Also had step heel neck joints too and plain gold knobs (no rubber insert). I agree that it was probably a transitional model. That guitar was virtually unplayed. Additionally after consulting my book, I sold it in 97'.
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 6:45 am:   

What's in your collection now then Six? There don't seem to be many of us collecting in the UK. Do you still have the Scruggs?
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Thursday, September 26, 2002 - 6:50 pm:   

Yup, still got the Scruggs plus that blue Bob Weir, a 2464 Birdland and a 620 Concord.

I've recently sold my 2355,a 2455,an LR10 and my old 2617.

I'm still after that early 2619 in brown sunburst a 2457 semi (or an SA400 in cherry) and a 2676 Artist.
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Craigjc (Craigjc)
Posted on Thursday, December 05, 2002 - 9:15 pm:   

Sixvsix, your brown sunburst Artwood twin is my new wallpaper. I have a 1997 Ford Ranger pickup with 19,000 miles on it I'd seriously think about trading for this guitar...in case you're interested. I inherited the pickup and it's a third vehicle. I'd probably play the twin more that I drive the pickup. You in the U.S.?
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Friday, December 06, 2002 - 10:41 pm:   

Jeez! A deal on a pickup truck has got to be the most bizarre trade I've been offered for a guitar.

But alas Craig, that Artie got sold a few years ago.

Thanks for the offer though Craig. I'm actually based in the UK but I’d guess the shipping costs would have evened out considering the size/weight of the guitar and its bleedin’ case.

Funny thing is I've always fancied one of those big meaty truck things. In saying that, we pay 73p a litre on fuel so my guitar buying would have to end to run the pickup. Yet, if I still had the guitar, I may have gone for that trade and just used it on Sunday afternoons on a run out to Finchingfield or Brighton or somewhere else where they sell good Ice Cream.

I’ll mail you some more pics for a screen saver. How about that?

six
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Craigjc (Craigjc)
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 2:27 pm:   

Thanks for the photos, Six. That is one lovely guitar. Do you know if both known sunburst Twins are in the U.K.? I've got a lot of family there, primarily in the Manchester area. Maybe I'll have them keep an eye out for an Artie for sale...
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Monday, December 09, 2002 - 2:46 pm:   

Craig:

The only other dark twin I know of is in California.
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 4:15 am:   

Spooky! In fact I sold that guitar to a guy in the Manchester area. That was in 97' but I have no record of his address or telephone number as I don't normally keep that info for long. Like I said before he was buying it for a 'name' player. If anyone knows a person in the Manchester area who deals with 'names' then you might be in luck. He sounded like an older guy so he's probably been around a while.

I never actually met him. This is because a bloke I worked with at the time who travelled home at weekends took the Artie with him one Friday night and this buyer picked it up from his house in Chester on the Saturday.

You never know Craig, it may still be around. You'll find the serial number in another thread on Artwood twins on this site.

Go hunting!
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Craigjc (Craigjc)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 7:27 am:   

Quite spooky. I'll contact my relatives in the chance they may have seen the Artie somewhere. Funny, too, you mentioned Chester. Been to the zoo there twice. England is a wonderful country; hope to make that journey again some day.

Thanks for the info, Six
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 10:56 am:   

I'm only 50 mins from Manchester, you can always come & see mine if you can't find the sunburst!
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 11:11 am:   

It sure is a wonderful country. Unfortunately nowadays, I can't extend that sentiment to a lot of the folk who live here.

Apart that is from the obvious Ibanez lovers over here like Me, Tim and Paddy just to name a few.

We’re pretty much spread around the country I believe. So if anyone’s coming over then let us know and we’ll buy you a beer (as long as you buy one back) and chat about you know what.

Assuring you of our best attention at all times,

Yours truly


The Brits (and er….the Welsh, the Scots and the Irish)
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 11:36 am:   

Six:

Buy me a beer! I'll be on the next plane! Wait, you chaps drink it warm and dark. Hmmm...I'm reconsidering. Then again, you do drink them by the pint...OK, I'll come. :)
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Craigjc (Craigjc)
Posted on Tuesday, December 10, 2002 - 12:15 pm:   

Thanks for the invites. It would truly be an honor to have a pint with any of you. And it would be rude if I didn't return the offer. If you ever find yourself in the Cleveland, Ohio area, let me know. I'll have a good pub warm up a couple for ya. Bring your darts.

Unfortunately, the guitar shopping is not too good here unless you want a brand new American made guitar. All of the used stuff, Ibanez included, has disappeared from the stores. Some people blame ebay. I did see a used Talman at a local store for $300 U.S. It wasn't a treasure, but it was OK. Went back a week later and it was gone. Not surprised.
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 6:51 am:   

Craig:

Any luck tracking that Artie down in Manchester?


John:

The beers nice and warm this time of year which brings out the flavour!


six
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Craigjc (Craigjc)
Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2003 - 10:50 am:   

Six, been busy with the job, a couple guitar projects, and school (learning Java), so I haven't had time to contact my relatives (actually, it slipped my mind). Thanks for reminding me, though. I'll try to remember to them your photo so they may make an easy identification.

Craig
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 11:48 am:   

Here's another piece of heresay thats popped up on the continent.

Looks like a transition model.

http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2505070442&category=23300

Can someone post a pic please.

six
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Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Saturday, February 01, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   

Twin
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 7:52 am:   

hmm, a 76, looks like mine but with new logo & different tuners. It seems there were quite a few variations along the way.
Ok who's putting a bid in? C'mon JohnS you haven't got yours yet...
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 9:48 am:   

Thanks Steve

If you look at my old Sunburst 2670 model above, the spec is that same except this one has Super 70's. This one is F76 where as my sunburst was a K76 and had Super 80's fitted.

Seems that between June and November thay made the switch to Super 80's but the rest of the hardware looks the same. Looking at the other pics posted on the auction, this one has step neck joints too.

six
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 6:46 pm:   

Tim:

It's a gorgeous piece and as much as I'd love to have one, I'm on a short spending leash. I just dropped a bundle on a harddisk digital recorder and it looks like I need to spend even more!
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Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker)
Posted on Sunday, February 02, 2003 - 7:45 pm:   

Yeah it's a balancing act....my new valve compressor is having to wait, just because I spotted that damn brownburst 2617!
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Monday, February 03, 2003 - 6:58 pm:   

See my new thread on Do-It-Yourself Recording Experiences in the Misc. section.
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Johns (Johns)
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 11:22 am:   

Here's a picture of Six with his Artwood Twin. Here's his description:

"Just in case you see me walking down the street one day, here's a pic of me and that Artwood Twin that goes back to about 1996.

By the way that's not my hat. My girlfriend just decided it looked good on me at the time. She's an ex-girlfriend now!!

Also, can you spot the groove in my left shoulder. It was certainly more comfortable to use the 6 string strap button and the higher rear button.

Hell that guitar was heavy!"

ArtyandSix
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Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Friday, February 07, 2003 - 7:20 pm:   

Crumbs, I was sooooo much slimmer back then!!
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Aliensporebomb
Username: Aliensporebomb

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, January 23, 2005 - 10:11 pm:   

Wow. I'd heard there were brownburst artwood twins and now
I've seen the pictorial evidence. I've seen a number of single
neck models but never a photo of a twin. Cool.

You should have kept it even though it weighed 12,000 pounds.

Cool always outweighs pain-inducing every time.

Someday I'll have money again and I'll have to get one of these
if I ever see one for sale again.
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Tim_walker
Username: Tim_walker

Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, March 25, 2005 - 7:22 am:   

You can have mine for $300,000 (I think that means I'm not selling!)
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Phibanez
Username: Phibanez

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 12:58 am:   

For you guys that have been watching a few years, how often does an artwood twin come on the market, and how often does a weir vine come up for sale. Just a rough idea. Oh yeah, these scruggs i read about, are they as rare or sought after too!
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Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 6:49 am:   

Hi Guys,
Re sixvxix's comments. I also worked in a UK music store in the 70s & 80s and we had to almost give away the tree of life vine necked guitars as everyone thought they were a wee bit crass. Amazing that they're now collectable - should have put a few aside !!
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 2:12 pm:   

See it's true!

Like I've said before here. I had real problems trying to offload that Artwood twin back in the mid 90's. Can you believe that nobody wanted it!

six
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Tim_walker
Username: Tim_walker

Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 26, 2005 - 8:16 pm:   

Jesus, I was looking for one since '82. All my mates at school thought they were the ultimate guitar! Maybe we were young & impressionable
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Lee
Username: Lee

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 2:11 pm:   

Hello Artwood twin lovers,
having recently acquired a twin( bought the one off ebay the first week of March) i'm curious to know just how many are out there.Anyone got a number?
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Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Monday, March 28, 2005 - 5:37 pm:   

Hi Lee,

We've done this before and there doesn't seem to be a definate number on how many.

Probably not too many so relish in the fact that you have scored one.

Have fun

six
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Tim_walker
Username: Tim_walker

Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 - 1:39 pm:   

That old chestnut....what was it 75 in the first few years then less in the next period..so maybe around 120 in total....or something?

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