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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 3:15 pm:   

http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7356458835
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Bigmike
Username: Bigmike

Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 5:13 pm:   

WOW, a real cream puff !!!

("See, it's still got the old tagger on it..." Nigel Tufnel of Spinal Tap describing his pristine guitar that's never been played).
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New_wave
Username: New_wave

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 6:03 pm:   

Exactly the same as mine :-)
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 8:59 pm:   

That's a real stunner. I wonder if it'll stay down under or make it's home somewhere else in the world?
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 2:02 am:   

If I'm not mistaken, you are looking at the one on the left in this picture. The one on the right is mine. A guy in Melbourne and I both bought our Artists via another Aussie who was living and working in Washington DC at the time. The other Artist purchaser was named was Vic, so I'm putting two and two together.
Two Artists
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Heymars
Username: Heymars

Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 6:59 am:   

what do ya all think it will go for?
currently at $911 aus
would mind adding it to the collection
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 8:57 am:   

Blues........ if you ever want to sell yours, lemme know.
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 9:24 am:   

Bobzilla, I waited 20 years to get my hands on a Burl Mahogany finish Artist! Trust me, they are rare as hen's teeth in Australia. Mine's an '82, the Cherry Sunburst is an '83 and you can easily pick out the differences.

I'd only contemplate selling it if I got my hands on an AM205AV. But if it happens, I'll make sure you know all about it.
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 11:08 am:   

Blues........ thanx.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 1:00 pm:   

Zilla! Why aren't you in the running for this one?
Speaking from experience, the AR 300CS is a smokin' player.
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 5:13 pm:   

Strings.... if you recall the dreaded "your opinions on bidding on Ebay" thread........ the answer to your question resides there.

(don't bid til there's 15 seconds left.)

Also..... seeing the burl-top makes me want that more than the one on ebay, but still... got my eyes on it.
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Bwbm
Username: Bwbm

Registered: 06-2005
Posted on Monday, October 10, 2005 - 7:21 pm:   

hey 'all, struggling to put up my 1st post here, maybe this one will work. have noticed that someone in another thread said that ar500s were worth or went for around the 600 quid mark dependant on condition. what is the value of this guitar then, and from watching you guys, is ebay good value?
ben
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 11:10 am:   

'Zilla...regarding the last line of your comment and noticing certain behavioral patterns in your posts, I've one question for you...how many girlfriends do you have??? ;o))))

BwBm/Ben = what does 1 quid = in US dollars? An AR500 that sells for less than $900.00 US is either a steal or has some issues in my not-so-humble opinion. OK BobZ et al, you can pummel me now!
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:49 pm:   

Strings... I don't understand the reasoning behind the question but.... the answer is 3. It was 4 until about 2 weeks ago. Now... I'm down to 3. One is married, the other 2 are not. Does the married one count?
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 3:52 pm:   

Strings.... P.S. - what are these "behavioral patterns" that you've noticed? Just curious to see if they deviate from the ones my Therapist and the Police Dept. have noticed.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 4:39 pm:   

No real reasoning 'Zilla...I just enjoy your quest for the "Grail"
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 5:21 pm:   

Strings...... I have a friend I've been playing guitar with, in bands with for about 20 years. One day, he and I remembered 75 guitars I've owned... just off the tops of our heads. There must be some we forgot as well. Now.... granted.... 75 ain't alot but I guess the quest has been going on for a long time. I hope you get further enjoyment out of that. You may get enjoyment from the following.... One of my ex-girlfriends sold my Gibson Korina Explorer (vintage) for (I think about $200) to buy cocaine. Did I mention that she did not ask my permission to do so? Did I mention that she's my EX-girlfriend? I personally have never had any interest in the stuff, so that compounded my lack of enthusiasm for her foray into the world of selling vinatge guitars.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:48 pm:   

I'm not sure which one of you had (has) the problem 'Zilla. A girl who does expensive and worthless drugs or a guy who thinks 75 guitars "ain't alot"!

In all seriousness Bob, in the words of Shreck regarding his flatulence, "If it were me, she'd be dead!"

Keep the good(?) stories comin'
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:50 am:   

Strings....SHHHHHHHH.....just got the wifey convinced that 300 guitars was "just a start"......
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Bigmike
Username: Bigmike

Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:03 pm:   

I'm not sure which one of you had (has) the problem 'Zilla. A girl who does expensive and worthless drugs or a guy who thinks 75 guitars "ain't alot"!

It's why I'm single... LOL (the guitars). Can you imagine explaning to a wife you're buying a $5700.00 guitar for yourself for your birthday...
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 1:56 pm:   

I have found that the guitars go down better with the women when you spend an equal sum of money on them.... as you just spent on the guitar for yourself. So.... a $5700 guitar actually costs $11,400. $5700 for the axe, $5700 for the necklace/bracelet/earings etc. Expensive but... at least you get to keep your "naughty bits."
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Boymambo
Username: Boymambo

Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:13 pm:   

That looks like a really nice Artist, but is the nut original? My '81 Ar500, which has only one non-original part, has the original nut which is half brass, half bone or plastic. Interestingly the AR305 still has a smaller brass block under the bridge.
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Agr
Username: Agr

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 4:45 pm:   

My '83 AR300 has an "all bone" nut and it is original. I believe that in '81 they still used the half bone/half brass nut.
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Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter

Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:29 pm:   

God some of you guys don’t know your born

All of my gear was acquired before wife and Kids – last guitar was 1985. Christmas brings books on guitars and/or strings but the money doesn’t stretch to much else. In three years time I’ve a big birthday and I will get my next guitar – it’s the wait that makes it worthwhile. I’ll spend a lot of time picking the ‘next grail’ – strat?tele?other? I’ll probably not get another ‘till I retire

My favourite guitar – modified Blazer has been commandeered by my son and it’s almost unplayable with his young sweaty hands. He’s getting his own stuff at Xmas. In the meantime I have to make dio with my 71 LP Custom

I got through my GAS stage when I worked in a music store – the ‘grails’ are out there . I’ve got one of them but I wish I’d bought the others (Ibanez Korina Explorer and a Guild something or other).

This isn’t a hard luck story. I’m very happy with my few guitars, as indeed I am with my wife and kids. I had a friend who could list all of his previous guitars, like his girlfriends/wives – but never really found what he wanted
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:45 pm:   

Every guitar on Earth is mine actually. You guys should be thankful that I am allowing you to play the ones that are not in my home at the moment.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 9:34 am:   

'Zilla - your figures don't add up based on your earlier post...$5,700 x 3 = $17,100.00!

Ever hear of storage pods?...you could probably stash half of Dave G's 'startup kit' in just one environmentally controlled pod (maybe a few tolerant babes too:-))
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 9:43 am:   

Strings........Hopefully, my guitar playing is better than my mathematical abilities. Although I do believe that $5700 x 2 = $11,400. What I was saying was.... any of those items at $5700. I could have said "pocketbook" instead of necklace/bracelet/earings. Yes, there are pocketbooks that cost $5700. And shoes. No kidding, one of my closest friends husband has 35 guitars. Their arrangement is.... if he buys a guitar, she gets something of comparable value. Every time. Expensive, but it works. He's in a tough spot now because of the fact that he's running out of room to store the guitars at the house.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 9:58 am:   

Actually Bob, it was my figures that were off...the total is $22,800 just for the "Cowboy" - $5,700 for the axe, and the balance goes to your 3 girlfriends! S'what I was sayin'
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 10:44 am:   

Yep. I gotcha. I may be back up to 4 soon. I just asked this girl out. I wish you guys could see the photo she just sent me. I'd post it here but... I don't know if folks here would find it inappropriate. No nudity but... a hot shot. Next e-mail from her, I find out if it's a yay or nay. She likes my ar1200av and she wants to know if she can hold it. I sent her a photo of it. She's a hottie.
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Guitartim
Username: Guitartim

Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 12:36 pm:   

Bob~
May I suggest taking a photo of the new girl WITH the AR1200. Girls, Guitars and Cars...what else is there for us mere mortals?

Tim
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 1:00 pm:   

Waitin' to hear back. Asked her to go to Atlantic City This weekend. I think the photo she just sent me is the one you'd rather see. But... if I can get her with the ar1200av, I would definitely post it. Then again, if someone in authority tells me it's OK to post her, I will. She's standing front of a Harley and she is "Miss Full Throttle" this year. She wins bikini contests every now and then as well.
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Roadartstar
Username: Roadartstar

Registered: 08-2004
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 1:27 pm:   

You have been given authority

Show us the money Shot!

hehehe

;)
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:05 pm:   

are you sure? I really don't want to get anyone angry with me here. Then again, it's just a girl, why should that be a problem and... she likes my ar1200av so... that kinda Ibanez-related. Ay?
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Guitartim
Username: Guitartim

Registered: 04-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 4:53 pm:   

How about Miss Heritage Harley Davidson? I heard it through the grapevine that she owns an Ibanez.
:-)

http://www.heritageh-d.com/miss%20Heritage%20HD.html
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 4:59 pm:   

I also know an ex-"Miss Snap-On Tool". Don't know if she's into Ibanez. But... she's a good sport nonetheless. I had to snip the buttons off her blouse for a TV commercial I was working on and she was real good about it.
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Tubescorcher
Username: Tubescorcher

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 12:51 am:   

You guys must sit on your hands till they fall asleep!!!
A.K.A. "The Stranger"
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Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar

Registered: 06-2002
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 2:19 am:   

"Gone In 60 Seconds", the remake...
What is this, High School?

Steve
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 02-2001
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:59 am:   

Til who falls asleep?

I sleep with one eye open and one finger on the delete key.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 10:59 am:   

Gawd, can I make a thread deteriorate to the lowest common denominator or what??

Sorry JohnS...GET BACK ON TOPIC BOYS!!

All I know is with a little high-end polish and some good photography, my 300CS just went up in value 100%!!
FYI - this axe is not without worming on the back and a poor fix on the thru-to-wood chip at the fore-strap button sink. She's mint in places and not so in others for sure.
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Jimmys
Username: Jimmys

Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 6:34 am:   

Hi,

Maybe a bit late as the auction is finished but...

I happen to be the 'Aussie guy' who lived in the US that bought/handled both the Artists in the photo. I took that photo in 2001 in my house in Virginia just prior to shipping the AR300 back to Australia. Both the AR300 and AR305 were bought on eBay during 2001.

This particular AR300 is absolutely brilliant. The auction described the guitar accurately. It is the best one I have ever seen and I helped a good friend find it after a very hard search. He only wanted the best and he got it. It's a shame that he sold it but the auction just finished and he got a good price for it - so I am sure that he is happy despite giving it up. The photos in the auction are good photos of the guitar but I recall when I first opened the case how excellent and shiny the finish was and how the hardware was not faded/worn in any way. I have an 81 AR300CS and the one just sold seems to be much brighter and shiner than mine, and mine is kept well polished and in excellent condition also.

I had intended to keep the AR305 but Bluesmeister got in contact with me and in the end I decided to sell it to him when I returned to Oz. Bluesmeister is exactly right about where each guitar went. I think Bluesmeister has one of the most stunningly figured AR305s ever made. I have had two others and they have not been anywhere near as stunning. Blues, you know I am always here it you want to sell it back to me!!

So, hopefully I've cleared up / confirmed a thing or two.

James
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 7:58 am:   

G'Day JimmyS, thanks for chiming in there, you know, I was thinking about mentioning that you were a member of ICW, but I'm glad you came along and saved me the trouble.

I had the guitar delivered to my place of work, and when I opened up the case, I was presented with a really beautiful guitar. It did have a deep scratch in the top and a chip, both of which have since been repaired. You'd be hard pressed to spot the repairs.

Dealing with JimmyS was a pleasure, he is a bona fide decent bloke. Cheers James.

I kept the piece of paper with your return address on it, every time I open the case it reminds me that you let me realise my 20-year dream to own one of these beautiful instruments.
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Tubescorcher
Username: Tubescorcher

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 5:18 pm:   

$2300 US for an AR 300!!!!! That's insane!!!
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Boymambo
Username: Boymambo

Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 6:05 pm:   

I sort of agree if this was a run of the mill AR300. If you want a guitar to gig, then it really is still an okay deal, not great, but okay. What can you get for $2300 new that is comparable, a PRS McCarty or CU24, to get the same quality top you are looking at a 10 top or artist grade, a custom shop LP, anything with a sniff of the same level of craftmanship is going to cost a bomb, and may not be as collectable. But if you are a serious collector, you have to collect guitars that are at the top in terms of condition and originality, in as close to mint that you can get, otherwise you may not realise your investment when it is time to sell.

I have an '81 AR500 that may be in better condition than the one that sold, and if the deal I am working which in terms of cash is considerably less than the one that sold yesterday does not work out soon, I shall be putting it on ebay in a few weeks. I would be a fool not too.
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Tubescorcher
Username: Tubescorcher

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 8:27 pm:   

I remember seeing pictures of your AR 500. I think you wouldn't sell to the USA, right? It's a beauty none the less! Good Luck if you do consider selling. I myself would hang on with a death grip!!!!
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Boymambo
Username: Boymambo

Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:10 pm:   

Not at all, I will happily sell the AR500 to any US based guitarist. I was having an email dialogue with a US based guy, but that seems to have stalled. See the problem is that I love my AR500, but it is not getting any play time at the moment. It is in great condition even though I gigged the guitar for about a year in '82. I think that the AR500 is really unusual in that it is incredibly nice to play live and also to record with, not many guitars are that flexible and work with so many amps. Deep down I just think that it is time to move it on to somebody who will play her. (But, I admit that I am not in a hurry to do so.)
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Falcon
Username: Falcon

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:33 pm:   

Boymambo,

I emailed you with some questions. Please contact
me at falcon820@comcast.net

Thanks!

falcon
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Boymambo
Username: Boymambo

Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 9:39 pm:   

Just did, sorry about the delay but I went for a bike ride and had to clean up.
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Captainibanez
Username: Captainibanez

Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 4:52 am:   

Finally,our beloved Ibanez collectables are finally coming into the price range that one would expect to pay.This was one of the best examples I have seen here downunder for a long time and to be honest,I thought it was a realistic price. I think comparing a PRS second hand price is a bit unrealistic..well for downunder anyway..they are still as dear as here second hand.
Still, the lucky or unlucky ex owner (which ever way you look at it) has made a dollar or 2, good luck to him and good luck to the buyer in Austria who bought it. Yet another piece of history, leaves our shores :-(

Captain Ibanez :-)
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Boymambo
Username: Boymambo

Registered: 05-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 5:24 am:   

Good to see you back in the fray, Captain. I have been jamming and gigging my RG470 that you set up, beautiful! Apologies for the PRS remark, I was trying to get across that I really believe that the late 70's / early 80's Ibanez AR500's are as good as any modern / new PRS and better than any woeful Gibson from that period.
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Captainibanez
Username: Captainibanez

Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 10:15 pm:   

No problems Boymambo, glad your RG is still going great :-)

Captain Ibanez :-)
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 9:46 am:   

OK JimmyS, but you left out one minor detail.
What was the purchase price for the CS in 2001?

...'cuz here is brillient
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/12/10526.html?1129519157
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Jimmys
Username: Jimmys

Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 10:53 am:   

I can't say - it wasn't my guitar, but here's a guide - more than an AR50 would have cost in 2001 and less than an AR5000 would have cost in 2001.
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Friday, October 21, 2005 - 11:19 pm:   

All I know is Scorch's gasp above is right on the money. That ain't as vintage a CS as you portend. It has the re-do bridge of the later models, different tail, later knobs and maybe no brass block. Your answer was less than helpful to be on the nice side - though, I'll assume you didn't realize your retort was too close to smart*** for my taste.

All the same...thanks for nothin'
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 3:50 am:   

Strings, your attack on JimmyS, it's unwarranted.

JimmyS bought the guitar and sold it on. If he doesn't want to divulge the purchasing and selling prices in 2001, I don't see why that should upset you. Consider it a confidential transaction.

Subsequently that AR300CS sold for US$2300, that's what the market dictated. JimmyS wasn't the seller on that occasion.

That particular AR300CS is an '83 model, the GibraltarII bridge was introduced in 1983, as were the SuregripII knobs and QCII tailpiece. I'm looking at an '83 catalogue, and to me, it looks like a 1983 model, but if that doesn't make it 'vintage', that's fine.

I've re-read JimmyS's responses and I can't see anywhere he said it was a 'vintage' guitar.
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 01-2002
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 10:43 am:   

I really don't know what you guys are bickering about ! Its a very nice guitar and all, but-IMHO-it is astonishing that it would sell at auction for $2000 and even more unbelievable that it would fetch $2300. Just goes to show that these beauties are constantly in demand, and -to the deep pocket collector-money is no object. I do not believe however that the next AR300cs will sell for anything near $2300 (if I thought that, I'd put the two I own on Fleabay tommorow !)}-but, then again, nothing suprises me with the Vintage market !
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2005 - 6:23 pm:   

BM:
You can spin my post ("attack") any which way you want. To be cordial, I was looking for somewhat more of a straight answer than a range well into the thousands.

If one is not at liberty to say then fine. But the spew after his hyphen was unnecessary at best. Seemed like flack from a legitimate query. The silence answers the question...2001 price - much less than a grand US.

Upset? Na, I didn't pay the big jing.

And you left out the sustain block...so did the '83 300.
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Jimmys
Username: Jimmys

Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 5:01 am:   

Strings,

I'm sorry if I offended you. You are right. My reply was definitely 'smart***ish'.

I hadn't forgotten to state the 2001 price - I just could not say because it belonged to a friend who probably doesn't want me divulging his business here.

Also, thanks Bluesmeister - you are right. I didn't mention that this AR300CS was a 'vintage' guitar anywhere. I don't where Strings got that one from.

Dave_g is right that the price that this one generated is astonishing - I totally agree.

J
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 8:48 am:   

Hey Jimmy...I appreciate the follow-up. It takes a man to admit fault. I'm sure you meant nothing by it and it was really no big deal, I just thought it a bit smug from someone I don't know. No offence taken.

And FYI, I had a chip thru to the wood on my '79 AR500 front strap button that I had a good Geppetto fix and you can't sense it at all. Not sure if you know the buyer or if he is listening, but it can be done properly for less than $60.00.

Be good...
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Falcon
Username: Falcon

Registered: 08-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 10:51 am:   

The price that this guitar generated is based on
at least four things:

1. Superior condition
2. Scarcity of collectible guitars in that condition
3. Excellent write up (copywriting)- better than most ebay descriptions you see.Don't underestimate the power of the written word, including many proof elements.
4. Many interested bidders.

A truly beautiful instrument. Much of the same could easily be said of Michael Kaufman's guitar and write up. Condition wise, you could say the same of Boy's AR500 that he is preparing to sell on Ebay. I would encourage him to study the AR300 and AR500 that just sold as he prepares. He should get an excellent price too.

best,
falcon
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Strings
Username: Strings

Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 11:22 am:   

Falcon...my sentiments exactly! Best looking display of ANY axe I've seen on eBay.

The one thing I wish we all could avoid is any comparison to Gibson...ESPECIALLY those made in the '75 - '85 period. Ibanez models of that era blow them away IMNSHO! ;O)
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Jimmys
Username: Jimmys

Registered: 05-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2005 - 7:24 pm:   

No worries Strings.

You guys are exactly right about the quality of the listing. It makes a big difference.

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