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Author Message   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 6:01 pm:    http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-Ibanez-DAN-ARMSTRONG-PLEXIGLASS-CLEAR-GUITAR_W0QQitemZ7 357210552QQcategoryZ33043QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 8:04 pm:    Thats the one that started it all   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:38 pm:    Dave: Started what?   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 10:39 pm:    This is very cool. Please use this ICW friendly ebay URL, if possible: http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7357210552   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 7:53 am:    Must be what got Dave hooked!   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:03 am:    Hey!!!!!!!!!! I saw it first! (just joking.) Neat axe though. Whoever gets it, let's hear about it when it arrives.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 9:44 am:    John...The copies of the Ampeg lucite guitar (along with thinline Rick and Hagstrom beatle bass) was one of the first truly accurate "clones" that started the 70's rush to copy everything American. The Ampeg lucite guitar was copied by many of the Japanese importers in 1970-71   Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 10:13 am:    It would be worth buying that guitar simply to hang on the wall and look at it!! Very 70's!! Very cool!! And cheap too. Tim   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:04 am:    Tim, you are mistaken if you think this thing is going "cheap". Too much time til auction end to make that call and .... too much interest in it for it to go cheaply. Don't be surprised if it ends up going for a grand. By the way, this guitar is 10 minutes away from me in Oceanside NY. I think I bought my ar1200av from this guy. Same name, same town. If it's the same guy, he's a good man.   Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 11:58 am:    It had a BIN of something like 800 US$. Is it Ibanez? The ones I have seen (in catalogues) are definetly way different in logo, pup- and control layout. I talked to Harry about this one and he also doubts its originality. What do you think? Paul   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 12:47 pm:    says Ibanez on the headstock.   Billy_porter Username: Billy_porter Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 5:06 pm:    It says DENNIS on the front of virtually Fire Engines in the UK but.............. Doesn't look Kosher to me   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 - 6:33 pm:    This is a replacement bridge. That is 100% definite. Does anyone know what the original bridge should be on this guitar?   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:37 am:    Hi all! What's "wrong" or not original about this lucite "Ibanez": *Tuners are replacements *The truss rod cover has a different shape than my own DA copy has (mine has a common "bell". *The pickup is a replacement, therefor the scratchplate must have been exchanged too. The original Ibanez DA has two humbucking pickups close to each other. *The bridge is a replacement. The original Ibanez DA has an ordinary LPstyle bridge and a bolt-through tailpiece. It puzzles me why on this guitar the original tailpiece has not left "scars" or holes in the body where the studs must have been.... Apart from thet: I never saw this MOP-inlay on any picture of an Ibanez DA. I'll hang on some pictures of my own Dan Armstrong copy Kind greetz, Harry   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 2:43 am:    oooops....twice the same picture! I ment to show this one instead; Harry   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 9:03 am:    Harry....... real neat guitar you have there. Maybe the reason you can't see holes from the original bridge on the ebay guitar is because.... look at the size of the bridge compared to yours. It's so large it probably just covers up the scars. The question is.... if you wanted to get this replacement bridge off and reinstall the original bridge set up, is that possible and... what "scars" will be left behind from the replacement bridge that's on there now. Photos in the auction ain't that great. Still a cool guitar though, I'd say. Maybe worth sprucing up. Don't come around very often.   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 11:59 am:    Hi all! Noticed another significant detail that tells me it is not an Ibanez: on the bass-side of the pickup we see the "glide-in" routing for the pickup, just as it is in case of the real Armstrong. The Ibanez version never had that. And Bobzilla: I don't think the replacement bridge is that big: compare where it ends. On the Ebay guitar the back of the bridge is still in front of the tone knob. You can see clearly that the tailpiece on mine is beyond the tone knob. So you would have been able to see two scars or holes from the tailpiece, definitely. I wonder: if this copy looks more like a real Dan Armstrong than the Ibanez did, why sell it as an Ibanez and not as a real Dan Armstrong (with a fake logo)? Could this be a recent Dan Armstrong re-issue that was transformed to an Ibanez? And why would that be? Because an Ibanez plexi is worth more than a Dan Armstrong re-issue? Kind greetz, Harry   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 12:22 pm:    Harry, how 'bout this. We know from experience that Ibanez did one-of-a-kind jobs and we also know that Ibanez deviated a little here and a little there on alot of their models. Could this be Ibanez first shot at an almost perfect copy of the Armstrong? Look at the headstock. That "Ibanez" is inlaid in there with abalone or whatever it is. And the shape of the headstock makes me think that this neck wasn't on any other Ibanez model. I mention this because I thought that maybe someone slapped an Ibanez neck on an Armstron body. But I doubt it. The tuners have definitely been replaced and the bridge is definitely replaced. Picture it before the bridge replacement. there was definitely some other bridge on there but the owner put the one on there that you see now because it came without any bridge at all. The pup itself and the set-up on pup on the one on ebay is actually almost exactly like the pup setup on the Armstrong's. I wish seller provided better photos. Closer shots. It has Ibanez characteristics and Armstrong characteristics.

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