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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Monday, October 24, 2005 - 3:01 pm:   

NOS Cloud tailpiece needed. Got one for me? For 1978 Artist 2622. Will buy it.
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 8:19 am:   

Bob will the AR3000 cloud piece fit? That is available from Ibanez!
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 9:09 am:   

Freak, I don't know. Someone was telling me yesterday that there's a difference between some of the clouds. I was told the screws line up the same on all of them, but that some were larger than others and it may or may not fit flush against the bridge set up.
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Yogi
Username: Yogi

Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 10:46 am:   

There are at least 3 versions of the Cloud existing, the old ones are slightly smaller. I would give the '04 Cloud a try. If it doesn't fit properly, you could put it on Ebay and get rid of it easily...

Juergen
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 11:16 am:   

Thanx Juergen, how do I obtain one? And... you know... I'd still rather have a NOS one if at all possible. I guess I can take this one off the guitar and just have it replated. I think my associates here at Harley have contacts they send parts out to for replating, I will look into that as well. So... how do I obtain the newer one?
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Yogi
Username: Yogi

Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:00 pm:   

Any authorized Ibanez dealer should be able to get one for you.

The Part number is: 2QC1JO1G

Cloud 2004

The '04 version looks pretty much like the first version that should be the correct one for your 2622. Although getting a NOS Cloud seems to be the best option, it could be more expensive than buying a new one. Or, as you already mentioned, replate the old one. If there is no heavy pitting (sorry, couldn't resist ) and the nickel layer underneath the gold is still intact, the replating should be no problem...

Juergen
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:17 pm:   

Thanx Juergen, mine has no pitting at all. Just the plating worn off.
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:21 pm:   

I called my local music store (authorized Ibanez dealer) so... we'll see what he says. Even if I do buy the new one, I will still hunt down the NOS one regardless, so if anybody happens to stumble across one... lemme know please and... thanx in advance.
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Bobzilla
Username: Bobzilla

Registered: 02-2005
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 12:24 pm:   

Can anyone point me towards a spec sheet on the 2622? Thanx. I tried a search here on ICW but... couldn't track it down. ar1200av specs would be nice too.
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Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 3:57 pm:   

Juergen,

Why should the nickel underneath the (worn) gold be intact for replating? If you want to replate you have to strip the piece down to the bare basematerial anyway. Prior to (re-)plating a series of mechanical and chemical treatments must be given to any metal to get a decent result. These treatments will kill your nickel layer anyway. If you start working on the, old, passified, nickel layer right away (long term) troubles with the top layer are unavoidable and I think replating is way too expensive to do the job halfhearted.

Paul
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Yogi
Username: Yogi

Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2005 - 5:20 pm:   

Paul,

if only the gold has worn off but the nickel layer is still intact, there is no need to take further actions. The rest of the gold should be removed completely though. I agree that the nickel could be damaged if this will be done by electrolysis, so some chrome polish will do the trick...

You're right that if the nickel layer shows a lot of wear and/or is pitted, so it can't be polished properly anymore, the plating has to be removed completely down to the raw zinc. In that case the plating would be a lot of work and therefore pretty expensive, so getting a new or NOS part would maybe make more sense...

One of my next projects will be the restauration of the heavy corroded hardware of my MC300 NT:

MC300 - Yuck!


Of course it would wiser to install NOS parts but I'd like to check out the possibilities...

Juergen

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