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Author Message   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 12:49 pm:    Figured I'd start a thread on the most beautiful model ever made by Ibanez (in my opinion) - The 2671 Randy Scruggs. My favorite is the darkburst one (G788864). The sunburst (A787710) has a little bit less flame and the earlier blond one has no serial numbers and super 70's unlike the others. I bought them all over the years in Sweden, but I don't think they were sold here originally apart from the blond. Please post your Scruggs pictures if you have any. /Steph   Tim_gueguen Username: Tim_gueguen Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:15 pm:    Yeah, the dark sunburst one looks the best of them.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 2:30 pm:    the number of splitters vary on these 3 guitars. correct? and... if so.... why?   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 5:25 pm:    The natural finish is an early model (exactly like my one. Soon not to be mine) so only 1 switch. Is the body thicker on the later ones, Steph? six   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 6:14 pm:    It's an extra split on the sunbusrt one which I don't think is 100%. The blond is an early (odl script logo) version. The thickness is the same on all three. What tuners does your blondie have Six, mine's been replaced and I'd like to get the originals put back on. (star or pearl tuners?) /Steph.   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 6:19 pm:    Bobzilla, I agree that the darkburst is the best - here the Weir (std) and Artist (2617) in the same family.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 8:16 pm:    steph..iszat one of the weirs I sold you a couple of years ago ? How could I?   Overdriver Username: Overdriver Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 04, 2006 - 9:26 pm:    All three are beautiful, but I like the sunburst model best. I would have preferred cream pickup rings too, like the Artist. I guess I'm going to have to find one myself now   Mel Username: Mel Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:55 am:    Hi to all the Scruggs admirers, I'd like to add a pic of my Scruggs which is dated Sept 77.My biased opinion is that these guitars are one of the most aesthetically gratifying guitars (along with the 2681) that one can lay their eyes on and their playablity is awesome.I often open the case and stare at its beauty.They don't make them like this anymore.   Mel Username: Mel Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 12:57 am:    Here are the pics   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 8:36 am:    Dave: It sure is your old Weir! I actually had a wine version on the hook for a while but lost it. Still looking for a decent 2617 in sunburst. Mel: Nice guitar indeed. Looks a bit lighter than mine. Seems like they changed the tailpiece from the 77 to the 78. Mines from July 1978 and had the Artist cloud version.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Thursday, January 05, 2006 - 9:08 am:    Black pup rings is the way to go! I am glad I got to see these guitars with the black pup rings because.... I really don't like the cream pup rings on any guitar and I've always wondered what they'd look like with black pup rings. Now, I get a chance to see it and (personal preference) the black is so much cooler than the cream. Well, the cream looks good on cherry bursts definitely, but the AV finishes and all the other dark finishes look better in black rings. I think that the cream is just used by default because they had millions of them to use. Aesthetically, the black is so much better on the dark finishes. (IMHO).   Emckenrick Username: Emckenrick Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 10:09 am:    Here's a happy guy with his:   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 4:48 pm:    Steph, Very impressive! Here's my pre-serial. Actually, its stamped "Y05" on the fingerboard. and the underrated '77 "Block 2671". js   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Friday, January 06, 2006 - 6:52 pm:    ..and here an even less common dot version   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 3:14 am:    My pre serial # vine Scruggs came with a black toggle switch selector ring. I've seen a pic of one like this in a mid 70's German wall chart (the blue one). It's definately original to the guitar. Jeff's one looks exactly like mine. Even down to wood grain. Jeff, do you know what colour the pickup bobbins are on yours? Mine are cream and zebra. six   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 6:30 am:    Here's Six's Scruggs in best possible company. \image[arts and scruggs}   Steph Username: Steph Registered: 06-2003 Posted on Saturday, January 07, 2006 - 6:31 am:      Jdd Username: Jdd Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 1:21 pm:    Here's a link to my '78 brownburst: Link   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 2:27 pm:    who's doubleneck is that and... how do I get that person to part with it?   Shel Username: Shel Registered: 03-2003 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 3:36 pm:    Show Offs!!(Excuse me while I wipe the drool from my chin) P.S. Where can I get one?   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 4:08 pm:    Jdd... yours is pretty much the nicest one I've seen. Congrats. Who's doubleneck is that? Johns? Dave G?   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 5:46 pm:    The twin belonged to me. There are a couple of threads here on ICW explaining all. I sold it in 97 and it was a struggle to get rid of it! Don't know where it is now. Apparently there is a guy in California who has a brown one. I reckon he may be the guy selling the 3 vines on ebay at the moment. Can't be sure though but you know how small the world is. six   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, January 09, 2006 - 10:55 pm:    The only brownburst Artwood Twin in CA that I know of is owned by Ron Thorn. I'm not sure if he still has it, though. I'll ask him when I see him at NAMM this year.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 2:44 am:    Hi John, Would be nice if he could offer up a couple of photographs of his twin neck for the site. Perhaps you could sound him out for us? So I assume then that's not the same guy who's selling the three vines on ebay right now? six   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 1:34 pm:    John, thanx and if u see him, try to get the serial # from his dark twin. And... see if he'll part with it.   Jdd Username: Jdd Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 3:34 pm:    Bob - thank you very much for the compliment. She holds a very special place in my heart. Unfortunatley when I received her a number of the higher frets were horribly damaged - almost as if someone took a metal file to them. Fortunatley I'm friends with an incredible luthier - Matt Artinger. He does fret and inlay work all the time, so he was happy to fix it up for me. To by disbelief it was almost as if a brand new neck was put on. Score! Just for the record - there have been so many breathetaking instruments I've seen on this site (not to discredit their tone or playability either), that I would be hard pressed to point out my favorite. That's why I love Ibanez - and all you guys are top notch too. Cheers!   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Tuesday, January 10, 2006 - 6:34 pm:    Jdd: Are you from PA? I remember seeing Matt at the very first Philly Guitar show I attended. Since then, I've been impressed with every guitar he's brought. In July, he was showing off a restoration to a very old Gibson that had a cracked top. He turned the guitar into a work of art. He does top notch work with a real unique style.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 12:55 pm:    if anyone can post a way to get in touch with Matt.... that would be nice. Never know when you may need an excellent luthier. Especially with some of the chop-jobs we see every now and then on these old Ibanez axes.   Jdd Username: Jdd Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 2:00 pm:    Well, I'm actually from over in NJ - but the ride over the border to Matt's place isn't much of a drive (especially since the Weyerbacher brewery two towns over has free tasting on Saturdays ) The best way to get in touch with Matt would be to matt@artingerguitar.com I feel oddly compelled to say that he is truely one of the nicest, most kindhearted people I've ever met. He has this bursting enthusiastic character that's very welcoming. At any rate, I figured I would try to attach a few photos Matt send over to me when he finished up fixing my Scruggs: He even went ahead and scalloped the nut for me, which we both felt was totally in character with the guitars aesthetics. Not to beat the topic to death, but I'm actually in the process of building a custom guitar with Matt (should be done in a few weeks!). Here's a quick glimpse at it: It's basically an all mahogony dual P-90 semi-hollow deal. Koa and rosewood compliments throughout the instrument.   Pitviper Username: Pitviper Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 6:35 pm:    Viper likes it! Now if it was a lefty...   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Wednesday, January 11, 2006 - 10:37 pm:    My professional family is not as nice as some posted here, but great gits none the less ! '77 Scruggs (Blocks) Fancy Tailpc '78 Weir "Cloud" '77 Scruggs , fancy tail, brass tuners '75 (?) Weir (Dot) no serial#, old logo, purfiling, Gotoh star tuners. logo pups (restored) '78 Weir "cloud" '77 Scruggs '77 Scruggs (Blocks)   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 9:09 am:    Dave, I'd say that's a very nice family indeed.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 02-2005 Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 9:15 am:    Jdd... thanx for that info   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, January 12, 2006 - 6:01 pm:    Dave. You need that get dot neck in the UK to comlete this family. six   Jdd Username: Jdd Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 10:39 am:    Dave, that's quite a collection you have there. Color me envious! Do they all go out on walks to park together?   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Friday, January 13, 2006 - 7:32 pm:    Six..Yea Santa must have forgot that one and the 2671 w Vines off of my xmas list !   Mel Username: Mel Registered: 01-2003 Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2006 - 6:24 pm:    Does anybody know the production numbers of the 2671 with vines??Or is that yet another Ibanez mystery??   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 12:57 pm:    Mel: I was told by Michael Wright that "no records exist before June 1978." Being that the Professionals with vines started in late '75/early '76, there's not way to get the actual numbers.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:55 am:    there is a dot neck at my local GC for 600.00 dollars. Jeffsailor knows the one I'm talking about.   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 8:49 am:    Freak, I saw the Dot Weir (2680) at GC, but not a Scruggs. I'll have to go take a look. js   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 6:36 pm:    Frog based Scruggs for sale: http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7383312946 six   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 17, 2006 - 10:33 pm:    Jeff it is the Weir I was talking about.   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Wednesday, January 18, 2006 - 10:01 am:    Regarding Randy Scruggs: I searched Google for any images of Randy and could not find one where he was playing this model. And only a couple playing electric at all. What kind of music does/did he play. I'm familier his dad's work on the banjo and other stringed instruments...but know nothing on Randy. What were the name of his bands? Are his efforts always solo? Any examples of him playing this axe? Is a he an accomplished player like the Roy Clarks/Glen Campbells of the world? Thanks! Strings   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:09 am:    *bump*   Orval Username: Orval Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - 7:59 pm:    strings, randy scruggs played with the earl scruggs review in the early years, when jeff hasselberger met him. hoshino was courting earl scryggs in hopes of getting a banjo endorsee. jeff became friends with randy and helped him with his electric setup. randy is now a recording industry executive in nashville. thanks orval   Strings Username: Strings Registered: 01-2005 Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 12:06 pm:    Thanks Orval...much appreciated!! Any samples available of him playing this fine looking axe? String

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