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Author Message   Drssyoon Username: Drssyoon Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:39 am:    I have an excellent condition 2355M with original case and the spare wooden bridge. It has tune-o-matic type installed right now. SN G755022. The case is also in good shape, except for a small tear. It has that "Sugihara" signature thing in the label. What would be a reasonable price? If interested, email me. Thanks.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 6:06 pm:    What is the shape of the headstock? Gibson open book or Guild tulip? What I find good about this guitar is its serial number. Why? It's a serial number of July 1975, which proves several things: 1) Ibanez numbered their guitars in July 1975. 2) It shows the exact age of this guitar, even IF it is a lawsuit model (this is often a problem, and seller sometimes do the dumbest guesses about the age of their instrument. No guessing here: FACTS! I like that... Mine is from 1976 and has a Guild tulip headstock. It is in mint condition, and the case is pretty good. Would it be possible to make a few pictures of the guitar? Most important: the serial number, the headstock, and some shots that show the beauty of it... and I know what I'm talking about. To answer your question: Do I find it interesting? Yes. Do I NEED it? Actually not, but I hunted a second one before, just to compare and keep the best one. But it is very questionable whether I would have been able to make a choice. I think that the price depends on the location of the guitar. Is it in Europe? Then €1110.- is the highest price paid on eBay until now. But I haven't seen any Americans go for $1400-1500 (which would be the equivalent of that price). Is €1110.- reasonable? I don't know. It was a result of a competition diehard collectors. The 2355M was not the most valuable blond jazzbox when it was new on the list. (It had cheap tuners for instance). But it has aged so beautiful, that you can't resist to buy it. There is only little difference between the prices paid today for a minty 2355M and a 2455 or 2616 for instance. These differences were bigger on the '70s pricelists. If you see what we had to pay extra for gold hardware, bindings, spruce tops, inlays... incredible... HUNDREDS of dollars. And how are these investments rewarded now? Now they say that with too much ornaments it's not a good example of a lawsuit model. So less is more. The 2355M really looks like a blonde Gibson ES-175D. I just HAD to buy it, when I saw it. It took me a few months to pay it, because I had also blown up my cylinder head gasket during that period. But the guitar didn't hurt as much as the repair: it cost me a bit more actually, but opening the case every now and then made my misery bittersweet, like a delicate chocolat. Ginger   Drssyoon Username: Drssyoon Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 8:48 pm:    Well, here are some pictures. Headstock Body 1 Tail stop Body 2 Body 3 Serial number Back 1 Back 2 Back 3 Nice flame back   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:15 pm:    I'm disappointed about the two things that were most interesting to me: 1) THE SERIAL NUMBER YOU GAVE WAS WRONG: it's a 1977 guitar. 2) The headstock is (of course) tulip shaped not open book shaped. PLUS 3) The speed knobs are not original. They should be witch hats/ quaker hats. THIS DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOUR GUITAR ISN'T A BEAUTY! It just isn't a REAL lawsuit model and doesn't blow the August 1975 hypothesis to pieces, because that would have been sensational. Nah, you can't win them all... You have a strikingly beautiful vintage axe, which can easily be restored to its original condition: all you need is 4 black quaker hat knobs. Ginger   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Sunday, August 26, 2007 - 9:57 pm:    Drssyoon: Very nice looking guitar. What part of the world are you located in?   Drssyoon Username: Drssyoon Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 7:39 am:    I am in Atlanta, GA. Let me know if anyone is interested in adding this your collection. Thanks and sorry about the transposed serial number. Steve   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 1:26 pm:    Hooray!!!!! First I was shocked reading about this G 75XXXX serial number, but fortunately I will not have to panic-call the layout guy of the "Vintage Ibanez Identification Book" about immediately changing the part where it says that the serial number system was introduced in august 1975. Would have been a sensational new discovery, though.... Harry   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 4:08 pm:    I would have never typed I had proof without photo evidence. Shame on you Ginger! Poor Harry almost stopped the press!!   Drssyoon Username: Drssyoon Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 4:54 pm:    I am so sorry about the mis-numbering. Had I known that I could have caused a cosmic rift to materialize I would have double checked.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 9:34 pm:    I can't help people making typos while copying serial numbers. If a member types the serial number of his own guitar, I assume it's correct. I didn't write that I HAD PROOF, I wrote that the existence of a serial number of July '75 proofs the existence of serial numbers before August '75. I explained the possible importance of this particular serial number. Then I checked AND asked for specific photo evidence. I did that for a good reason. Shooting the August '75 thesis to pieces is not nothing. And what IF it would have been true? Then Harry would have been just in time to adjust his text. To poor Harry this new knowledge would have been an enrichment. Perhaps a bit inconvenient because of the moment of the "discovery", but no big deal. Ginger   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:00 pm:    Ginger notice the smile next to my sentence. It was all in fun.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 6:59 am:    Huh, smile? Ah yes... I didn't pay attention to that. I came home late (after 2:00 AM) after visiting my dad, who's a widower. After my training we always drink coffee and watch Discovery Channel together. It was the first training after summer holidays and something had snapped in my left hand (again) and the sweat in my eye triggered the virus (again). So I was kind of grumpy and bad sighted last night. Ginger

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