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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 4:40 am:   

My name is Erich, and nowadays I live in Santiago de Chile. I recently bought an old japanese Ibanez 12-string guitar. Although I don't even know when it was made, I instantly fell in love with the looks of this guitar, and its sound is just wonderful. However, I been looking for some info on this one without any luck yet. Please help me if you can!

Acoustic 12-string guitar
Ibanez V-302
Serial number: 82090510 T (the "t" looks stamped with ink over the paper tag). Also, over one of the inside wood pieces there is a 820938 number stamped with what I believe was a red-hot piece of steel.

Thanks in advance and you all have a nice weekend!
EB
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 11:04 am:   

Erich,

Welcome to ICW.

The V-302 is part of the "vintage" series of Ibanez acoustics. Your guitar was built in 1982.

You can find a quick catalog scan of the V-302 information here: http://www.noahjames.com/vintagepage/acoustic.html There are better places for more detailed scans, if you like.

Your information is accurate: Most (maybe all) acoustics from this era have serial numbers on the soundhole label in addition to the branded number on the base of the neck. I believe that's because the guitar necks were made separately before the guitar was assembled at the factory.

I would like to put this serial number information into the thread where I am collecting that data. Yours is a useful example. And, if I'm right, your guitar was build on 5-Sep of that year (1982), but that's still a guess. :-)

Best wishes! Your V-302 is in many ways like my Artwood AW-75, and I love that guitar to death!
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 12:04 pm:   

Chaz, did you notice that "T" too? "Looks stamped over the tag?" I think we should ask for a picture of that label and of the wood and finish, because the year 1982 AND a T do NOT fit in what we had until now.

But then again, it's a 12-string...
(T for tigerstripe maple perhaps... D for dark stain, H for herringbone...? One thing's for sure: we haven't solved this yet!)


Ginger
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 9:02 pm:   

Thanks so much for the info, Chazmo! (Same goes to Ginger) Your help is very much appreciated. You know, there wasn't much I knew about this one before getting into ICW. I was only looking for an old good-quality 6-string guitar to spend the rest of my life with, and this babe happened to turn up.

I'm adding some pictures of the guitar for you to check it out. There's one piece of a tuner missing -if any of you can shed some light on how to find a replacement then that would be truly nice. And of couse that's me, a happy Ibanez owner playing some George Jones' tune.

Thanks again and you all have a nice week!
EB
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 9:09 pm:   

Had problems uploading the pictures, but here they go.

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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 10:28 pm:   

Ginger, yeah the letter is confusing. I don't know what it means, although I'm thinking it's probably not a factory code. That label definitely shows a "T" on Erich's V302.

Oh, hey, Erich, another interesting thing is that the branded number is on one of the back braces, not the neck. Do you know, is there another branding on the base of the neck (also inside the body)? I don't have a branded number on any of the body braces of my M310; only the neck.

Clip those strings, man. :-)
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Sunday, July 01, 2007 - 11:55 pm:   

Chaz,
Well, I've never thought you'd be that interested in that "T", 'cause a few weeks ago I come across some pictures from a V302 located somewhere in Deutschland that also has it there in the tag. Just like mine, the guitar in the pictures also had a number branded in a brace, but I just couldn't read it.

Now what about the missing piece of that tuner? Is there a way to find such replacements?

Ah, by the way, is there anything wrong with the way I re-strung my guitar? Never had advice from anyone in the know. Do I really have to cut them strings?

Later,
EB
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 1:47 am:   

Forgot to mention that I've checked as much as I could the inside of my V302 and there were no other marks rather than the ones I've shown in the pictures above (and no, there's not a mark on the neck).

BTW, saw your 6-string guitar on other thread. It really is a gorgeous Ibanez!

Regards,
EB
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 10:05 am:   

Hey, thanks Erich!!! I love my new (old) M310 flamed maple 6-string. In fact, I've got a "gig" (company picnic) next week and I'm going to play Sheryl Crow on it. :-)

Also, my 1981 Artwood AW-75 is a killer 12-string, despite the (now recovered) dehydration damage I did over the past few years. :cry:

Also, thanks for the info about the branding and the label info on your friend's V302. I'll add that to the list. I'm trying to gather serial number information so maybe someday we can draw conclusions about what information is contained in them. I suspect that most of us are interested in the origin of our guitars and stuff like that.
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 10:48 am:   

OH, and Erich, about your questions...

There are often tuners and hardware being sold on eBay or here on ICW in the classified section. You should post there to see if someone has a tuner for you.

As for stringing your guitar, I use the Taylor website as a guide for many things including that. It seems to be down right now, but normally it's got great FAQ / white-paper information on this. Spend some time there; there is a terrific amount of information to be learned from it. Wish Ibanez were that good!
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 9:15 pm:   

Perhaps Stewart-McDonald can help you with the bushing.
http://www.stewmac.com/shop/Tuners/Tuner_parts/Tun er_Bushings.html


Ginger
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 12:31 am:   

Thanks for the heads up, Ginger. Well I'm uploading a pic of the other V302. I can't read the branded number in the brace, but still this picture is all I have by now.
Regards!
EB
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 8:14 am:   

Thanks, Erich! I think that's really fascinating that they branded the brace and not the neck. Yeah, and absolutely yours and your friend's have a T at the end of the serial number. I wonder if anyone has an '82 V300 out there with information... Maybe "T" stands for twelve; although this back brace branding thing makes me think this guitar came from a different factory than the "H" guitars of the same era.

Anyway, best wishes and thanks for gathering all the info! If the good folks at Stewart-MacDonald don't have anything for you, you might want to consider after-market tuning machines, depending on how authentic you wish to keep your axe. Jchester put Grover locking minis on his Concord 12-string, and he likes them. I think with the stamped machines that you have on your V302, the top washer is only aesthetic (doesn't affect the tuner itself).
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Friday, July 06, 2007 - 2:30 pm:   

There's a V302 up on eBay. Looks a little worn, but not too bad. Got a question into the seller about the serial number information (at least we can date it).
Ebay Item #200124164390
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 12:42 am:   

Hey Chaz!
Cute V302... Have you noticed the tag has the other shape of Ibanez logo? Talking about different logos, take a look at this cherry V302. Ah, of course there you have another "T".
Have a nice weekend!
EB
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Chazmo
Username: Chazmo

Registered: 3-2007
Posted on Saturday, July 07, 2007 - 7:01 pm:   

Oooh, that's NICE, Erich. Very unusual. And the picture shows the label *and* the brand. Thanks! -- Charlie
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Erichbtoholic
Username: Erichbtoholic

Registered: 6-2007
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 1:07 am:   

By the way, what's the C W? What does that mean? Just curious. Thanks Charlie and have a nice week! So how was it with that gig you were into this weekend?
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Talajuha
Username: Talajuha

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, July 09, 2007 - 5:56 am:   

CW - Cherry Wine, colour/finish

Looks like conventional colours/finishes are not always written after model numbers.

Juha

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