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Author Message   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 6:57 pm:    Hey Guys, Check this out !! I bought a M310 on ebay , It just arrived, a few dings, action is a little high, but I love it. I was going to add the serial # to the "test your knowledge" thread, and its already on there!!!!! This is the guitar that had the protruding truss rod!!!!I dont know if they got it fixed or what but its not sticking out anymore???? Im taking to my local shop tomorrow to see what he says. I hope I didnt get scammed!!! Talk to ya later   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 9:45 pm:    Callawag... Yeah, I'm confused though. That auction disappeared after I copied down the serial number information. Hmm... Did it reappear recently, or did I just miss that you purchased it? Maybe the truss was just loosened excessively. Anyway, definitely take it to a luthier to have a look-see. I'm suspecting if the neck is a little bit off that you may need to humidify the guitar and then do the truss adjustment. But, I don't know. I hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. I think they're wonderful for a laminate series.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:00 pm:    Hey, I bought it on july 4th, but he didnt take paypal, so it took 2 weeks for me to get it!! Also, this guitar was in Sparks, Nevada. 35 miles miles away from Truckee,Ca. where the one that disappeared was from. Very interesting. I just hope I dont have any problems with the truss rod. we will find out tomorrow!?   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, July 19, 2007 - 10:13 pm:    Yes, that's right. The original auction was from Truckee. A little odd, there, Callawag. Keep us posted.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, July 20, 2007 - 1:41 pm:    Hey, my guy wasnt in the shop today, so I wont know anything til next week. I'll let ya know.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 1:27 pm:    Hey Guys, my luthier says the rod may be stripped,going for a second opinion, seller wont refund, rather than dispute and stress out about it,just may keep her, and play her til I cant play her no more!! I'll let you know! Thanks, Sue   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 1:39 pm:    Sue, that's a shame about the truss rod. I hope you can find the neck to be playable. The really correct places to adjust the action of your guitar are at the bridge saddle and sometimes the nut, provided the neck isn't badly bowed or too far out of position. Your luthier can probably adjust both of these for you to get a comfortable playing position. Good luck!   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:07 pm:    Hey, the selller says this is an easy fix.he said when he trimmed the excess nut off, he trimmed a little too much.(which he failed to mention B4 I bought it !!!) He says all I need is a few spacer washers because the thread end inside the nut where the hex socket starts,when you tighten the nut, theres not quite enough threads to put tension on the truss rod. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Sue   Ubetcha Username: Ubetcha Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 2:35 pm:    Sounds like someone tried to lower the action at the nut, because the truss rod couldn't be turned down any more. I have broken truss rods before, tightening them too much. Hopefully that has not happened in your case, because W/O the truss rod your neck is going to turn U-shaped under tension. Definitely check out the washers deal, that might work if the truss rod is not broken & the threads aren't stripped out.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 10:47 pm:    Sue, I think the previous owner clearly messed this up, as we noted originally that the truss rod was not right, and something strange happened when the auction relisted. I don't think there's any doubt of that; you inherited a problem.. But maybe it's not so bad that the guitar isn't playable. See if a luthier can set this up for you, i.e., seek professional assistance here. Without a working truss rod, you may have intonation problems and/or it may be difficult to get comfortable action. The neck will flex. Use light-gauge strings. Good luck.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 11:07 pm:    Hey, Thanks for the input, the neck is playable, action is a little high but were going to work on that. My luthier said he see's no problem w/ the neck right now, I'm just worried about the future! I like to find a nice guitar and keep it for many yrs., I'm just not sure if this is the one??   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 9:09 am:    Sue, I *totally* understand how you feel. If you're like me (and it sounds like you are), you should probably unload this guitar and look elsewhere. Of course, any time you buy a vintage instrument you take the risk that some prior owner damaged it. At least with acoustics, that's usually easy to identify.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 10:00 am:    Chazmo, How do I unload when I know it's damaged? I would feel guilty selling it and not teling them about the truss rod, and when I tell them, who would want to buy it???? Thanks, Sue   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2007 - 12:55 pm:    That I can't tell you... I understand your predicament, although apparently the person who sold it to you didn't have the same ethics. Sell it cheap, pawn it, give it to someone, or just play it 'till the neck drives you bonkers. Just don't invest your time/money/heart (this is *me* talking, by the way) into it. Sue, these vintage maple-series guitars are definitely nice and all, but there's a lot of "headroom" here to grow (IMO), both from a collecting point of view and from a playing point of view. Grab a late-70s or early-'80s Artwood, for example, and you'll see what I mean. Also, vintage Martins and modern Taylors are truly magnificent guitars that will give you a lifetime of happiness. As a like-minded person, my philosophy has always been this: always buy the absolute best that you can afford. Don't settle. This way, the quality of the instrument/tool/whatever that you're using will heighten your enjoyment of the activity, and it'll push you along to improve.   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 11:36 am:    Hey guys, A good solid Ibanez is all I really need, I don't play in a band or anything,Just play at home,campfires that sort of thing.No way I can afford Martin, Taylor Etc. Maybe in about 10 yrs. when my kids are grown! Thanks, Sue   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 7:50 pm:    Best wishes, Sue!

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