I Want A Ragtime!!!!

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Author Message   Thebigarch Username: Thebigarch Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2007 - 4:29 pm:    I,m searching for an ibanez ragtime special, I had a quick go on a r-640? and can't find one anywhere. Any ideas? Please help me!!!!!!!   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 2:59 pm:    Hi, Theres a ragtime on ebay!!!! Good Luck, Sue Ebay Item #28141966479   Callawag Username: Callawag Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 3:01 pm:    Sorry,the other item# was wrong, Sue Ebay Item #280141966479   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 5:45 pm:    Nice 1980 version. Looks very good!   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Friday, August 10, 2007 - 10:48 pm:    Chaz, did you take a look at the serial number? We haven't got a Ragtime R400 in our list yet. This seems to be serial # 802100 (no letter visible). No letter could mean Fuji Gen. That wouldn't be a problem. If this is a 1980, then it wouldn't fit in your month and day hypothesis at all, would it? Perhaps I'm misreading... shall we mail him for the correct serial #? Ginger   Thebigarch Username: Thebigarch Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 4:54 am:    What the theory with acoustic serial numbers? there doesn't seem to be any info on how they were numbered anywhere. I shall be trying to secure this one though, she looks pretty good and I'm sure will be wonderful until that r-640 appears on the market...at a time when i can afford it....might be a while then!   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Saturday, August 11, 2007 - 11:15 am:    Theory, theory... Chazmo are working on something that could become a theory that holds. Right now it's a mix of hypotheses. But we are getting closer day by day... http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/11 /1801.html?1186413184 Ginger   Thebigarch Username: Thebigarch Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 3:47 am:    Thanks for pointing that one out guys, i contated the seller with regards the guitar but all he mentioned was a buy it now price. When i said i was interested if he could find a price for uk postage i got no reply but i found it strange that 'someone' bid right up to the price he wanted so i retracted my bids. looks like I'll be searching again... A few of my friends have got some old ibanez acoustics, I'll see if i can get the serials for you.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 7:20 am:    Ouch, did I write that? "Chazmo are"? I meant "Chazmo and I are". When you asked this question, I first started to write down our hypotheses in a message, but then I decided to copy them into a text processor and keep the message short. It's all a matter of patience, and being precize in the formulation. But the more data we get, the better we can check if our hypotheses are false or true. We are mainly interested in the serial numbers with a suffix, but the older ones with a prefix can help to determine the point when they changed the numbering system to the one with the suffix, and expose perhaps a transitional system (no letter?). Anyhow, it would be nice if we know as much about the acoustics as we know about the electrics (like Cappy's serial number thread, Mr Roadstar's Roadstar tables, or Funkle's AM tables on his website). 'cause what have we got about acoustics? Zip. So there's still a lot of work to be done. Ginger   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 3:54 pm:    Sorry, i was gone for a few days... It certainly does look like 802100, Ginger. And that's what's printed on the label! That's much more akin to my 1981 Artwood AW-75 which I never put on the list because it has *nothing* on the label. Yeah, I don't know what to make of that, Ginger, except that it seems to be another numbering system that was maybe used on the R-400s. And, yes, it seems unlike the other 8-digit + suffix serials we've seen. We'll have to add this to the list, but yeah an email to the seller might help to get a better idea if there's any other serial information on the guitar.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2007 - 4:52 pm:    There seems to be a transitional period in the year 1980 between the prefix and the suffix system. I believe we have already one example in our list, belonging to our webmaster if I remember it well. Shall I put this one in the list or are you going to? Or perhaps we should first check the number with the owner. BTW Nice model, a bit Django stylish. The price was $145.- and when I came back after a few hours it was $290.- I think bidder 5 is a shill bidder. Ginger   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:28 pm:    $430US. Not bad. There were 11 bidders in this contest... Nice to see the interest in our old Ibanezs! Yeah, Ginger, I'll add this to the list.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 6:38 pm:    Hey, Ginger... This ragtime fits perfectly with Hasenobu's. This *could* be a 1980-only numbering system, as the other 8-digit + suffix start at 1981.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, August 14, 2007 - 7:41 am:    That's what I was thinking, Chaz. It could probably mean also that the manufacturer is automatically Fuji Gen Gakki. It's not relevant for the research, but did you get that last digit confirmed? It's behind a string. But OK, what if it's an 8 instead of a 0? It wouldn't really matter, would it? Ginger   Thebigarch Username: Thebigarch Registered: 8-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 11:11 am:    Here's another ragime supposedly '81. The serial is a bit different on this one! Ebay number 150150586141 Ebay Item #150150586141   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 7:14 pm:    Yes, I saw it. I noticed that the owner installed a VESTER piezo pickup and preamp. That would NOT have been my first choice. Why not a top brand like: B-Band Fishman L.R. Baggs ??? To be honest: I find $750.- for this one pretty high. Ginger   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 7:18 pm:    Oh, uh Chaz, did you notice that J suffix in the serial number? 81100???J Ginger   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 8:51 pm:    Indeed, Ginger. That's a tough one to read, but definitely a J at the end of the 8 digit sequence. Yeah, the price is high, but the guitar looks to be in really fantastic condition.   Jchester Username: Jchester Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 - 10:23 pm:    She's a pretty thing, but at... Shipping costs: To United States -- AU $330.00 ...I think she'll stay down under.   Wolle_schmidt Username: Wolle_schmidt Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Friday, August 24, 2007 - 5:42 pm:    Hello. Info from Germany. Here they sold four different Ragtimes: R-400, R-460, R-620S, R-640S. There were different finishes. But the woods were like this: R-400 and R-460 got laminate spruce top and lamiante mahogony b&s, R-620S got solid spruce tops and lamiante rosewood b&s, R-640S got solid spruce tops and lamiante flame marple b&s http://kreativ-lab.de/artwood/images/1981/1981_11. jpg http://kreativ-lab.de/artwood/images/1980/1980_2_0 2.jpg http://kreativ-lab.de/artwood/images/1982/1982_13. jpg Regards.   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, September 10, 2007 - 12:52 pm:    Ebay Item #190150870962 Juha   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:06 pm:    Nice looking R-400 on eBay. Price might be a little high... Ebay Item #280158952084   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 9:14 pm:    My my... Here's another... Ebay Item #160164385269

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