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Staalburger (Staalburger)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 2:24 am: | |
Hi
II have an early eighties ebanez v300bs drednought aocustic guitar. I have difficulty tuning the b-string on it. I don't think that it's the nut since I had it replaced recently. I'd like to know what kind of tuners these guitars had and what the best tuners would be to replace them with. Also what else could the problem be, could it be the intonation? If it is, how do I set the intonaiton?
Thanks |
Paddy_F (Paddy_F)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 7:22 am: | |
Without seeing or playing the guitar its a bit difficult to advise, but heres my bit anyway.
1. Im not familiar with the acoustic range, but I suspect it will have a fixed bridge so that rules out intonation. {someone who is familiar with this model could better advize on this point}.
2. height of strings may have a small effect on tuning.
3. light guage strings can also cause problems.
4. playing tecnique can also have a significant effect on tuning.
5. check the neck isnt bent.
6. use a good quality quartz tuner {its quicker and usually more accurate}.
7. if the machine heads {tuners} are holding tension or the strings or b-string is not continually going flat, then your tuners are o.k.
If this does not help go to a reputable shop/ guitar repairer who is willng to give honest advise without ripping you off.
Paddy. |
Johns (Johns)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 8:33 am: | |
Staalburger:
What kind of "difficulty" are you having? Please describe the symptoms, that might help us narrow down the problem. How long have you noticed the problem, recently? always?
As far as the bridge goes, if it's like my early 80s NW series, it's not only fixed, it's compensated. That means the bridge is not uniform, but is shaped more like an electric that has separate saddles under each string. Of course, these "saddles" aren't adjustable, but they do a better job of helping the intonation problem of acoustics.
Check the endpin, too. If the string is slipping through it or the pin is slipping out, that could be a problem. |
Staalburger (Staalburger)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 10:28 am: | |
Hi
Thanks for all the replies so far. Let me describe the problem. I tune by ear. The e, A, D and G strings are all fine. I can tune the b-string until it is the exact same pich as the g-string on the fourth fret, (thus b), it's also the exact value as the a-string on the second fred (b but only an octave higher). When I play an a-chord however, the b-string which now holds the ptch of c-sharp sounds sharp. It sounds sharp even if I move the a-chord up, as a bar chord. I hope you can deduct anything from what I've described.
Thanks |
Paddy_F (Paddy_F)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 12:26 pm: | |
it does not sound like a guitar problem, make sure you have good strings [not too old], your action is good, and I really would recommend a guitar tuner. I use a seiko st757 which is chromatic, so you can check every single note, [its also cheap]. you can also check the intonation on the b string first getting it in tune in the open position,[using the tuner] then play the same string one octave higher at the 12th fret, CHECKING it against the tuner, in fact check all the strings, if they all read a just a few cents sharp or flat at the 12th fret its really not a problem, but if the b string has a much greater deflection than the rest at the 12th fret its back to the discussion page.
Unless you are one of the very few lucky people with perfect pitch, it really does make a difference using a tuner, as tuning by ear can be subjective. I never used a tuner as a matter of pride, but now I make it easy for myself, also dont forget the harder you hold down the string, the sharper the note up to a point, thats why action and string guage are important. Providing that it has the correct bridge [it cant be rotated thro 180 degrees can it?] the only other thing I can suggest is a compromise by tuning the b slightly flat, or hold your A magor bar chord and check the B string against the chromatic tuner, if it is sharp adjust as needed then check other chord positions and come to a tuning compromise.
best of luck Paddy. |
Staalburger (Staalburger)
| | Posted on Monday, October 21, 2002 - 1:19 pm: | |
Hi
Thanks for all the advice. I am quite lucky in the fact that I do have perfect pitch. I also don't use a guitar tuenr due to the fact that I'm blind so I can't really read them. I will take your advice to heart. my strings are a couple months old so I suppose that is the problem. I believe they are medium gauge strings. I didn't know a pitch problem could have something to do with age.
Thanks again. |
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