Ibanez '74 strat or fake ?

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Author Message   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:05 am:    Hello, I found this Ibanez stratocaster which dates from 74, but I have doubts about the veracity of this guitar. The seller tells me that it's all original. What do you think? http://imagik.fr/images/viu1194957557f.jpg http://imagik.fr/images/viu1194957580j.jpg http://imagik.fr/images/arx1194957807j.jpg http://imagik.fr/images/arx1194957832d.jpg http://imagik.fr/images/klz1194957857y.jpg   Emilio Username: Emilio Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:47 am:    This is the place you should be looking to: http://www.ibanez-vintage-page.de/ The guitar looks OK to me.... cheers emilio   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:53 am:    I've read those pages, thats why I have doubts   Tbplayer Username: Tbplayer Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 2:14 pm:    didn't the models before 76 or 77 have truss rod covers? might be a transition piece to the silver series. looks nice though.   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 3:02 pm:    Yes they seem to have a truss rod cover. That's why I have doubts. Do the models 74' have been produced in black? I'm not sure...   Tef Username: Tef Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:02 pm:    there's a black 2375 on the vintage page. it has a white truss rod cover, however these go missing often... the scratchplate and knobs seem non original to me. does it have the original three-way selector switch? otherwise nice catch!   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:22 pm:    There are no screw holes for the trus hole cover. That's weird! But it has the 3-way selector switch.   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:39 pm:    Black Ibanez Strats do excist. But in this case thereīs something fishy about the bullet truss rod. TBplayer wondered if it could be some transition model for the Silver Series, but these did only appear later, round 1977. This black Strat has a back plate with only "made in Japan" and this indicates that it was made before august 1975. So we have a problem here. Never seen bullet trussrods covers on Ibanez Strats other than on the Challenger series, but until now the Challenger series had small headstocks. And this blacky has a large headstock.....this all just doesnīt add up. The difference in colour between the pickguard and the pickups seem correct. I own two black Ibanez Strats: a very early one with a metal truss rod cover and another pre serial with a white plastic trussrod cover. This last one also has the very yelowish pickup covers while the scratch plate is still white as ever. Tef says that this one might be missing the TRC, but then we would have seen three screw holes and a hole in which the truss rod was hidden. Besides: with such a sticking-out bullet it wouldnīt be possible to screw on a TRC cover. My guess: itīs unlikely that the neck is the original one. I believe itīs a replacement with a "restore your guitar" water slide decal. But weīve seen strange and doubtful things over the years that after research proved to be (most likely) original after all. Kind greetz, Harry   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 5:01 pm:    Thanks for your message. very interesting!   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 5:05 pm:    I'm with you here, Harry: - colour difference between headstock and fretboard indicates that the headstock was indeed refinished with with clearcoat to cover the new decal. - the pickguard and the neck fit nearly, but not entirely. So either the neck or the pickguard is not original. Given the headstock colour and the bullet story, I'd say it's likely that the neck was indeed replaced. Ginger   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 11:12 pm:    I have a preserial 2375 in black as well. I have always questioned its originality only because I didn't know they were offered in black. Obviously the neck on this specimen is in question. If it helps, the neck on my pre-serial 2375 has a truss cover (no bullet) and a maple cap neck (no skunk stripe). js   Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 7:50 am:    ...and the pickguard has 11 mounting screws. My 2375 has a 10-hole guard.   Latornade Username: Latornade Registered: 11-2007 Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 9:05 am:    I've found this. http://www.musicplayer.com/article/ibanez-silver-s eries/mar-05/4178   Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 9-2004 Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 8:02 pm:    I'd say that is not the original pickguardor pups. Someone could have easily replaced the lot which is not uncommon. My '73 2375 only has the 8 screws for the pickguard and deffinately not the 3 ply like this. Certainly a few doubts about it.

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