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Author Message Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 9:47 am:    Hi all! Here we go again! Watch out for this seller. His name is "Leosfender" and he's offering 2 fake Ibanez Les Pauls again. The first one is a goldtop. The backplate showed "made in Japan" in the wrong place (on the upper part, so near the neck in stead of on the lower part, near the body) and besides: I never head of an Ibanez Goldtop model Les Paul with gold hardware. The last one supposed to be a black LP Custom. There's no inlay on the headstock (either split-diamond or "rabbit") Watch out! People are offering more and more fakes!!!! Harry Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 9:49 am:    Forgot to mention: this "Leosfender" is operating on German Ebay!! Harry Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 10:54 am:    These are not the only two Fake Ibanez from this Guy ! He sold more than 6 Fake Ibanez in the last 6 months ! Ibanez Collectors ! Watch out ! Hasy Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 11:42 am:    Yep, this guy has been talked over before, over here, on the same subject. Lucky thing is they are quite obvious fakes. Crucial details going wrong. Seems to me that someone has started his own Ibanez LP production line. Note that the complete necks and logos are always the same (and WRONG!)on those guitars. Paul Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Saturday, July 30, 2005 - 9:46 pm:    Harry....on the early LP clones (with the applied metal Logo plate) wouldn't the end of the fingerboard be rounded ? I thought the squared off board was a later innovation (along the time of the applique logo)..Sounds like this seller has a box of old logos to attach to any Japanese guitar he comes across Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 7:15 am:    Hi Dave Yes, it's obvious that the seller is a crook. On regulary base he offers these guitars-with-fake-logo. It seems to me that they are cheap copies which are transformed to "Ibanez" because it sells better that "Kamikaze" or "Harikiri" or whatever brand they originally are. I feel so sorry for those who are not as much "into" Ibanez as we are, because you could easily be tricked if you don't know to what specific details you should pay attention to. I sent the seller 2 mails (kind mails....) to inform him about these guitars being fakes and asked him if he either was a victim of forgery or the forgerer himself. Until now I got no answer, but it's weekend right now. Maybe he will reply in the next days. I'll keep you all informed. Harry Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 8:07 am:    Maybe it's time to forward this to Hoshino. They do legally persue fraudulent product bearing the Ibanez name! Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 8:37 am:    Freak yes, do it ! Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, July 31, 2005 - 4:29 pm:    At this moment I am exchanging e-mails with a fellow who bought a fake from this guy. I told him about his guitar being a forgery. After a while I could convince him that it was any way. The buyer went back to the seller and the seller claimed to be unaware (yeah, right.....) and offered to take back the guitar. Might be continued.... Paul Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Monday, August 01, 2005 - 10:28 am:    This is wierd irony to me. The original Ibanez 'Les Paul' models were high quality Gibson copies (fakes?) that got Hoshino in a bit of trouble way back when. Now here's a guy trying to capitalize on the hot market for Ibanez LP copies...by using other cheap LP copies as a template! Reminds me of the story of the art dealer who sold fake art...to a guy who paid him with counterfeit money! Stationc Username: Stationc Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 8:03 pm:    hi harry, I have not seen the original offer of leosfender les pauls, but I read his feedbacks and looked at the older offers. he usually descipes his fakes as a fake, if it is one. he sells a lot of fender stuff and fender copies and if there is a decal on it, he says that it is not an original. he was selling a LP from japan and wrote that he changed the logo into a gibson one. could you give me the ebay-no. of these to fake-ibz lps, so I can check if everythings allright? greets maggy Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 23, 2005 - 8:11 pm:    Hi Maggy, Although I am certainly not Harry i'll try to answer you question. If I still have them I'll post the eBay nos later but in these cases there was no mentioning in the descriptions of decals or fakes. These guitars were offered as genuine Ibanez. I found him doing this at least six times with Ibanez LP copies. Paul Stationc Username: Stationc Registered: 12-2004 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 3:45 am:    hi paul, thought that it could be a missunderstanding of the difficult german language (I know, I am german), so I just wanted to get sure and keep an eye on him to let you know, when he is going to sell another very, very rare ibanez. maggy Olafreijnders Username: Olafreijnders Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 6:34 am:    Probably a fake again! Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 24, 2005 - 11:28 am:    Hi all! In the meantime I had a mail from this Leosfender guy. And according to his story he didn't know they were fake Ibanez: he said that he got them "as they were" from one of his "suppliers". And of course he has had so many mails about the so-called forgeries, but "now that one of the ibanez experts from the Ibanez Vintage Page" told him the same story about these guitars being fake-Ibanez he was willing to accept it as reality and he wanted to have a serious chat with this supplier. Let's see how things will develope..... Kind greetz, Harry

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