1974 2375 Ash (I hope...)

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Author Message   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:29 am:    I took a gamble on this one. I wasn't convinced it really was an Ibanez. Anyone care to comment? Ebay Item #220104810894 mk   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:46 am:    Beautiful I'd dare take a gamble at that price, too. Juha   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:30 pm:    Beautiful indeed... Natural ash is one of my favourite colours for teles and strats. (Next to sunburst) It's a pity the logo is missing. This could be any Japanese brand made in the same factory. The others are just as good, but have less collectors value. I would not know how you are going to prove that this is an Ibanez, when you sell. I think you need to replace the black switch cap by a white one MIJ (narrower than Fender) and to put the volume knob in the tea for a while, because it's too white. Ginger   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:36 pm:    In looking at the '74 catalog, they didn't have an Ibanez logo. How can one tell if it really is an Ibanez. mk   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 9:59 pm:    Hey, yes you're right. And there is nothing on the DeLuxe Tele headstock either. So nobody knew who to sue for copying stratocasters and telecasters. Clever... Ginger   Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 12:11 am:    I thought they had logo'less guitars just for the pictures.... The pickguard doesn't look like it fits as tightly around the bridge as the Ibanez Strats from that era, but it looks like a good guitar anyway. Also, the MADE IN JAPAN is a little high on the heel plate... I could be wrong.. but I think it might be a "Pan" or a different Japanese manuf from the era. I wonder what kind of tuners are on the guitar. It'll be interesting to take it apart and look inside the neck pocket and underneath the pickguard.   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 1:03 pm:    Should it have a 3-way or 5-way pup selector? mk   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 4:09 pm:    According to Harry's description of the 1974 Ibanez strat switch, it should be 3-way. But there were MIJ 5-way switches. I had one in my Jarock, but it is probably a bit younger. What they have in common, is that they are shorter than normal strat switches, because the slots in the old MIJ pickguards were shorter. So if you want to replace the switch and keep the same pickguard without drilling extra holes, you should try to find an original old MIJ switch. Personally I found my old MIJ switch not so good. I replaced both, the switch and the pickguard of my Jarock. Ginger   Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 10:37 pm:    Both my old Strato and my Challenger have 3-way's. G~ is right, the 3-way is shorter in length than the 5-way's. I found this out the hard way.   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 9:09 am:    Hi all! If this guitar is a "no name" Ibanez, itīs made in 1972 or early 1973. In this period the truss rod cover was made out of metal, like this ash Strat has. Around 1973 this part was made out of white plastic. What puzzles me is the newer style tremolo: the 71 to 73 Strats had the tremolo arm go into the block immediately next to the first saddle, which had a kind of "cutaway" in order to get the space for the arm. Tremolo covers had a hole in them to put the arm through. Hereīs what I mean: this is the old style 1971-1972 tremolo. this is the one that appeared around 1973/1974 So the ash strat in the auction has a 72 truss rod cover, but a 1974-style trem block. "No name Ibanezses" pop up on regular base. Probably the factory where the guitars came from (Fuji Gen Gakki) made some badges of certain models without a name, so that distributors who bought big amounds could stick on their own brand name. The reason that some 70īs Ibanez catalogues show the guitar without headstock logo is indeed like BrentM said: it was only done to save costs. Doing so the pictures could also be used for e.g. Antoria catalogues: you only needed another catalogue cover with a different brand name. If you look carefully at the nameless headstocks you can sometimes see that these were retouched. Iīd say: this ash Strat would have been a 100% genuine Ibanez if they had put the brand name on it. Kind greetz, Harry   Harry Username: Harry Registered: 3-2001 Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 9:11 am:    Hi all! If this guitar is a "no name" Ibanez, itīs made in 1972 or early 1973. In this period the truss rod cover was made out of metal, like this ash Strat has. Around 1973 this part was made out of white plastic. What puzzles me is the newer style tremolo: the 71 to 73 Strats had the tremolo arm go into the block immediately next to the first saddle, which had a kind of "cutaway" in order to get the space for the arm. Tremolo covers had a hole in them to put the arm through. Hereīs what I mean: this is the old style 1971-1972 tremolo. this is the one that appeared around 1973/1974 So the ash strat in the auction has a 72 truss rod cover, but a 1974-style trem block. "No name Ibanezses" pop up on regular base. Probably the factory where the guitars came from (Fuji Gen Gakki) made some badges of certain models without a name, so that distributors who bought big amounds could stick on their own brand name. The reason that some 70īs Ibanez catalogues show the guitar without headstock logo is indeed like BrentM said: it was only done to save costs. Doing so the pictures could also be used for e.g. Antoria catalogues: you only needed another catalogue cover with a different brand name. If you look carefully at the nameless headstocks you can sometimes see that these were retouched. Iīd say: this ash Strat would have been a 100% genuine Ibanez if they had put the brand name on it. Kind greetz, Harry   Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 9:21 am:    Thanks! btw...it is a 3-way switch and lighter than I though it would be. mk

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