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Author Message chris s (Ccs) Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 1:53 pm:    I'm starting this hoping to get some answers and help give some also.I know the CT model is the korina v but what about the DX?Is that the set neck making the 2387 the bolt on?I have 2 pre serial # bolt ons and both have these pup's. I believe they are super 70's.So what are the zebra ones you see so often and what are the difference's between the two?The v in this flyer sent in a newsletter dated 11/13/73 has the zebras and says "The uncovered humbucking pickups have exceptional bite and power.They are dual-pole,specially wound pickups which have the crisp and full sound most wanted by modern rock musicians." Next,both the neck and bridge pup's on one of mine are stamped 24004 on the back but the other one has a 24902 in the neck and 24905 in the bridge.Any ideas?I would love to know what the numbers mean.I do know that the 24004's are much richer and sound great with a cleaner sound and the 24905 will blow the paint off your house when used with high gain.The last question(for now)is about the "medallion" V.Over the years I've seen a couple of for sale ads for cherry V's with a Ibanez medalion inlaid in the body.Whats up with that?Does anyone have one,seen one or know anything about them?There is some interesting info in the flyer,I'll type it out when I get a chance.Did you know that a Rocket Roll buyer "is more than likly a rock and blues player and dresses even more flamboyantly than his peers"? chris s (Ccs) Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 3:46 pm:    ELGER EXPRESS VOL.1 NO. 1 New Ibanez "Rocket-Roll" Debuts,Astronomical Sales Predicted This falls new look in guitars is actually an old look.The Ibanez "Rocket-Roll" model features the look and sound of the guitar made famous by the Kinks,The Rolling Stones,Albert King,Savoy Brown and many other well known performers. But we all know there are many look-alikes and when it comes to playability and sound,many just can't cut it.Thats where the Rocket Roll and all other Ibanez guitars break from the crowd.We like to call our line "The Faithfull Reproductions".We don't have to tell you that they look alot like other popular guitars but they play and sound the same too. We've gone to a lot of time and expense to make sure that ibanez guitars have the sound and easy playing ability that all fine guitars should have.And the Rocket Roll is a shining example. Starting with appearances,the body is hand finished in a tough,glossy cherry.The cured mahogany is specially selected for density,important for maximum sustain.The fingerboard is rosewood with pearloid position markers and nickel silver frets.All the hardware is bright chrome plated. The uncovered humbucking pickups have exceptional "bite" and power.They are duel-pole,specially wound pickups which have the crisp and full sound most wanted by modern rock musicians.The pickups are controlled by a three-position switch,tone control and individual volume potentiometers.And speaking of potentiometers,ours are designed for smooth and gradual volume and tone adjustment. The neck is contoured to fit the preferences of most American rock musicians.And to assure true playing and low action,the neck has an adjustable truss rod that really works.Some neck rods are improperly designed and installed,making them virtually useless when they're needed.Ibanez necks are made of thoroughly cured,straight-grained wood so they won't need adjustment very often.But when they do,you can be sure that it will be a two or three minute job rather than a all day headache. And while were on the subject of customers,just what kind of customer is interested in the Rocket Roll?Well,he's the one who comes in and asks if he can search through your basement or attic for unusual items,or old electrics.He's young,more than likly a rock and blues player and dresses even more flamboyantly than his peers. When this particular style of guitar was first introduced,it was looked on as a novelty,almost a half-joke.But since the revival of interest in that period,the style has become an extremely popular rarity.We predict a good sales picture for this model in the future and feel that the $265.00 price will be most attractive to your customers.Case list $57.00 The Rocket Roll bass is the first bass to use this unusual body style and has all the features of the guitar.Priced at $280.00 list it should be a big seller among rock bassists.Case list $59.00. There are a limited number of these models available in this country so you'd be wise to place your order as soon as possible.This model is one of many new and exciting models we are planning to introduce throughout the coming year.Our goal is to make all Elger dealers the leaders in their area-in sales,in profits,in quality-by keeping them supplied with the latest and best merchandise available. Mark Munchenberg (Munch) Posted on Thursday, March 22, 2001 - 9:23 pm:    Chris, Thank you so much for posting this great info. Its this type of gear that makes owning these oldies so much more enjoyable. As you know, I have a Set neck version of the cherry Rocket Roll - pre serial number. It is a fantastic guitar. It features the zebra bobbins and does have similar numbers to yours inked on the baseplate of the pickup. I will have a look at the numbers and post them here later. Cheers, Mark Johnny Hendrix Posted on Friday, March 23, 2001 - 10:59 am:    Chris, I too very much enjoyed reading your post. I have posted on here before that I have two Rocket Rolls, both pre serial number bolt-ons, and I always get a kick out of it when I see someone else who enjoys these guitars. Mark, what are your feelings in terms of quality, sound,etc, between the set-neck and bolt-on Rocket Rolls? Just curious. Thanx, Johnny chris s (Ccs) Posted on Friday, March 23, 2001 - 4:36 pm:    Johnny, Are your pup's the zebras or the whites?The next time you change strings check what numbers are stamped on the back.I had a set neck Gibson V and actually have one in my house right now I'm setting up for a friend and I don't notice anything special.Maybe a little more of a solid sustain but thats just me.To each his own. Johnny Hendrix Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 12:29 am:    Chris, My cherry one has black pickups and, the black one has white ones. Really I'm not even sure if they are stock. I will chech the backs when I get a chance. I'll let you know. chris s (Ccs) Posted on Tuesday, April 03, 2001 - 11:51 am:    Heres a picture of the medallion V.The medallion,in the upper wing,says "Ibanez Superior Quality Electric Guitar".It's a bolt on and the pups have been changed.Anyone know the story behind these?I would imagine that there must be other models with this feature but I have only seen it on V's and very few at that. Ice (Mark_Hartman) Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2001 - 5:19 am:    A little late, but I had to say 'thanks!' to Chris for posting that cool vintage info and ad scan. That's the kinda stuff I love to see! I have an '82 RR400, by the way. Love those tiger tops! Grrrr! Also curious about that medallion business. Very intriguing... Johnny Hendrix Posted on Monday, April 09, 2001 - 8:46 am:    Gibson made medallion V's also. The Ibanez was more than likely just a copy of that. Making copies is one thing but thats kinda silly don't you think? Oh well, they are pretty cool anyway. chris s (Ccs) Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 1:27 pm:    OK,heres the next thing I've always wondered about.Other than both of my V's having the same type pup's but different numbers and output one has econo type tuners and the standard thin harmono-matic bridge you always see but the other has the "star" tuners and the fat(pre gibralter?) harmono bridge.Is this a case of whatever was on hand at time of completion? It may seem trivial but things like this intrigue me.I've seen the stars on other V's but never another fat harmono.Whats on yours and what's your opinion? Mark Munchenberg (Munch) Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2001 - 10:41 pm:    Chris, My set - neck V has the star tuners and the thin bridge. I've not seen the fat harmono bridge myself so can't comment on the differences. Mark chris s (Ccs) Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2001 - 12:44 pm:    Mark, The fat Harmono is like a Gibralter except the edges are slightly rounded,the taper to the ends is a little different,the height adj. screws sit flush to the top,not down in a recess and the saddle adj. screws have a more rounded head and don't stick out as much.As you can see,mine is a little road weary from many years of being my main axe but I've never had any troubles.Time for a replate. Munch (Munch) Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 6:42 am:    Hi Chris, I have just had this professional shot done of my Rocket Roll. Hope you like it. Cheers, Mark Ccs (Ccs) Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 11:39 pm:    WOW!!!!!That is awesome.It would make a great poster in my studio.Mark me down for a calander too.Your photographer really did a great job with those shots. Speaking of V's,I took a chance on that stripped down '77 that was on ebay last week.It's real,no questions about it.The body is smooth as glass,they did a very good job of taking the finish off but the pups were swapped out.The hardware is all Ibanez but it's all gold,even the star tuners so I'm not sure if it's original.I've never seen one dressed in gold.If it's not,that would put the real date in question but either way I'm happy with it.The big question is what finish do I want?For some reason i keep thinking white. Chris Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Friday, September 23, 2005 - 8:23 pm:    After waaaay too many years I finally,finally scored a 2387 custom korina.I've been on the short end of that stick for over 20 years so it's oh so sweet to put an end to that chase.It's a pre serial with the correct pickguard,no rubber on the side.A few dings and some worn plating but I'm happy.That makes six V's total now,four of them Ibanez.Now for that elusive medallion V Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2005 - 11:01 pm:    I was just looking through the registry and saw a 2387DX with a F78 serial.Isn't that pretty late in the game for a Gibson copy?I just kind of took me by surprise.I always thought the 2387 production ended in '76. Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 2:32 am:    Here is a 2387DX on ebay now. Pretty scarce toy. http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7372786121 six Tonedef Username: Tonedef Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2005 - 10:06 pm:    That selling company ought to put a little more slow opening junk into the listing. Anyone hoping to snipe this better get on board at least 10 minutes early... Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:21 am:    All the recent V talk made me bring this thread back up.I started it many years ago so I'm hoping some new info may be able to be added.It's amazing how much "unknown" has been solved due to John creating this site.Thanks!!

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