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Kiwigat
Username: Kiwigat

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 2:43 am:   

i have this old les paul copy, but am not totally sure how old it is. here are a few pictures of parts (i'm in the process of re assembling it). any idea what it would be worth?
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Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 3:23 am:   

Hi Kiwigat

What you have is a model 2386 and (unless there is a serial number on the back of the headstock, but I guess there's not because otherwise you would have mentioned it) it was made before august 1975.
What puzzles me are the 4 knobs; not sure if these are the original ones. If I'm not mistaken they should be the ones with the chrome tops.
Could a former owner have removed these chrome caps?
I see only one pickup and one Star-tuner.....you do have the others too, I hope?

Once you have reassembled it you have a guitar that's worth around 500 dollar. But you never know with the prices: I once saw an Ibanez Black Eagle bass sell for over 2000 dollar and a couple of weeks later exactly the same model in equal shape and condition only brought the seller just over 400 dollars....

Kind greetz,
Harry
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 6:31 am:   

And again no teardrop shaped burst on the back but round. Seems to be typical for 2386........

The control cavity shape and the pickguard suggest it is an early one. Hard to be more specific in this condition. Do you have the truss rod cover?

P@ul
Tristan
Username: Tristan

Registered: 3-2005
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 11:53 am:   

I know that in '74 there were still round edges to the end of the fretboard (22th fret), I think '75 is a transition year for that, correct me if I'm wrong?
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 12:16 pm:   

Tristan,

More likely that is around 1972......
Harry
Username: Harry

Registered: 3-2001
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 1:28 pm:   

Paul, Tristan
According to my archives the model 2386 appeared in the 1973 catalogue for the first time.

Harry
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul

Registered: 10-2004
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 1:43 pm:   

Just making myself clear: I think the 2386 in the pictures is 1973-1974 (1975 and later would have a different shaped control cavity) and I think rounded fretboard edges dissapeared around 1971-1972.

P@ul
Hackneyslim
Username: Hackneyslim

Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 5:55 pm:   

Don't know about cavities or fretboards, but my no s/n 2386 has the same top-hat knobs as this one. As far as I know, originals.

A lovely guitar.

h

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