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Liam Burke
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
What are the differences between the Super 60s and Super 70s? What else is there? Do the "flying fingers" etched covers denote one pickup or another?
Cheers,
Liam |
JohnS
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Liam:
The early ('77, '78) catalogs I have show the "flying fingers" humbucker to be either the Super 70 or Super 80.
In later catalogs ('82) the 70/80 disappears and the favorite humbucker is the Super 58.
Around this time period there were V2s & V5s. And then a bunch of other humbuckers from the mid 80s to today.
Never heard of a Super 60 pup. |
Liam Burke
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Any ideas how these pickups (70, 80, 58) differ compositionally and sonically, John? |
Mark Munchenberg
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Liam,
A Super 80 is a ceramic magnet and is filled with hard resin.
A Super 58 and Super 70 are metal alloy magnets (the exact type, I don' know) and are wax potted.
The difference between a 70 and a 58 I can't say for sure. However I know that a Super 80 is way louder than either a 58 or a 70, and 70's are louder than 58's.
Tonally the Super 80 is loud, bright and clear. The Super 70 is Loud, fat and warm. The Super 58 is a traditional vintage voice - not too loud, not too fat, not too bright.
Hope this helps.
Mark Munchenberg |
dvguru
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Anyone out there familiar with the V-2 pickup from Ibanez? They look like Dimarzio Super Distortion models, white w/allen screw adjustment poles. I'm trying to get an idea of their sound characteristics before installing them in an '83 Rocket Roll II. Any info would be a help. Thanks!
Jim |
spiro
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
In the 1991 Ibanez catalog the info states....
V2
"Even toned but warm. A tight lead pickup; great definition in low end, smooth top end with excellent sustain."
I have V2 Pickups in my 1978 PS10 and also in the newer ones.. They are quite a well rounded pickup similar to a PAF or PAF pro..... They also appear in the RG guits but hard to tell sustain levels as these guits have floating trems... I think they are a quite good all round pickup..... |
spiro
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
In the 1991 Ibanez catalog the info states....
V2
"Even toned but warm. A tight lead pickup; great definition in low end, smooth top end with excellent sustain."
I have V2 Pickups in my 1978 PS10 and also in the newer ones.. They are quite a well rounded pickup similar to a PAF or PAF pro..... They also appear in the RG guits but hard to tell sustain levels as these guits have floating trems... I think they are a quite good all round pickup..... |
Timo
| | Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
V-2's came as stock pickups in the bridge position
of the 80's Rocket Roll II, Destroyer II and the
Iceman so you will be on the right track towards
getting your RRII back to original configuration.
The neck pickup on these guitars was typically a
metal covered Super 58. Ibanez literature that I
have from the 82-84 era describe the V-2 as
"blazing hot", "scorching hot", "sizzling" and
"puts out an extra dirty, high output sound
perfect for rock and roll".
Those are all quotes directly from Ibanez
brochures for the DestroyerII, Rocket RollII,
Iceman and Roadstar RS-Deluxe.
To me this would indicate an output level much
higher(more like a Dimarzio SD) than a PAF which
is considered well rounded but not particulary
powerfull output level wise. I also have a Dimazio
PAF and as sweet as it sounds, the power is
nowhere near a V-2.
I have noticed a very marked differece in the
sound of V-2's in two of my Destroyers. One is a
DT-555(Phil Collen) model while the other one is a
DT-50. There are so many diferences in the
construction between the two guitars that you
would swear that it's not the same pickup in
there.
Hope this helps. At the very least you will be
putting in the pickup that the guitar came from
the factory with. |
Fatback
Username: Fatback
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, November 11, 2004 - 9:11 pm: | |
how would the super 58, 80 stack against some gibson classic 57's? i have a '76 2630 with the super 80's but i'm not crazy about their rather brassy sound. |
Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Friday, November 12, 2004 - 2:01 pm: | |
Super58's are very close to the PAF and Classic57 in tone. Super80's are very bright in comparison.
Steve |
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