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Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 1:33 pm: | |
Hi guys,
This is my first thread and I thought I’d like to try to resolve some confusion that I’ve noticed on this great web-site.
As mentioned in other posts, CSL was in fact Charles Summerfield Limited based in Saltmeadows Road, Gateshead. Originally a toy importer Charles’son, Maurice, began importing Ibanez guitars to the UK in early 70s to mid 80s. Maurice was/.is a very good jazz guitarist and keenly pushed the jazz guitar side of Ibanez, his brother Melville continued the toy side of the business. Most CSLs were in fact re-branded Ibanezes, later CSLs (80s) were cheaper Korean guitars. They also imported some cheapo guitars in the 70s under the Sumbro brand and for a short period they also imported Guild guitars, distributed sheet music and Guitar magazines as well as TAMA drums
Antoria guitars were Ibanezes imported by John Hornby Skewes Limited of Garforth. Leeds and may have also re-branded some guitars as JHS. Not only were they rebranded Ibanezes they actually used the same catalogue numbers in their brochures.
I sold 100s (literally) of Ibanez guitars over this period and worked for the Summerfields during some of this period.
Hope this may clears things up |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 6:02 pm: | |
Hi Billy and welcome.
Interesting stuff. I'm one of the few UK based Ibanez posters on the site. Similar to you, I worked in the retail industry during the mid to late 70's (be it only part time).
I was basically a Saturday boy to gain extra cash whilst studying. Worked for Berry Pianos based in east London. We sold all the brands you mentioned above and that's how I began my interest in Ibanez.
We sold a lot of Antoria copies as they were basically the same guitar as Ibanez but with less of a price tag. This was much to the annoyance of the Summerfield rep who was trying to flog the same Les Paul with Ibanez on the headstock.
It was a different story when the first serious Ibanez originals started to appear in the catalogue. I reckon the UK was a couple of years behind everyone else so I don't remember anything on the original design front coming into the shop before late 1976.
The originals slowly became more popular. The last Ibanez copy we sold was a Deluxe 59er. After that it was the Performer model in 1978 including the rare (ish) but smart looking Olive green finish.
I think the nicest copy we sold was the Antoria set neck 3 pickup white SG Custom. Same as the Ibanez version but CHEAPER!
How about some memory lane from you?
six |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 02-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 23, 2005 - 11:40 pm: | |
Hi Billy:
First off, I'd like to echo Six's welcome to you. Thanks for clarifying and confirming the UK connections with Ibanez. Can you tell us more about Summerfield? Is it still in business?
Also, do you know anything about the Ventura brand? |
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 7:16 am: | |
Here is some Ventura pics. I actually have the 335 with bigsby copy but its in need of repair. The whole top was removed by someone and the electronics were crudely resoldered.
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Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 24, 2005 - 3:48 pm: | |
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the welcome.
Can't remember the ventura brand and certainly don't think it had anything to do with Summerfields. |
Padraic
Username: Padraic
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:17 am: | |
Here's some memory lane from me:
Billy; you may actually have been part of the sale of my 2402 doubleneck if you worked for Summerfields. This was bought in 1978 for my 18th birthday (where have the years gone?) from Jeavons on Percy Street, Newcastle (now long gone). I had to wait for the guitar to arrive from Japan, and I seem to recall that the owners of Jeavons knew the Summerfield brothers well. As an aside I traded in my 2 guitars (a Watkins Rapier 44 and a Columbus Les Paul  )at the time to offset the price of the twin. Ibanez guitars were relatively expansive here in the UK, so I'm not surprised that Antoria sold well. Some of the cheaper copies were truly awful; my Columbus for example!
Is there any link between Summerfield guitars and those badged as Arbiter? I can recall Arbiter twins too at that time in Newcastle (just over the river from the Summerfield office)?
Padraic |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 6:37 am: | |
I have a Arbiter LP with a "vine" neck that is very similar to the vine design put on Aria Pro and Electra guitars...Anyone know if there is a connection ? |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 12:02 pm: | |
Padraic
I feel like I’ve been outed. I worked in Jeavons from 1975 until its demise in 1987. They had a very close relationship with Summerfields mainly due to proximity. Virtually all of the UK seconds and returns were sold through Jeavons. We saw lots of damaged and cracked guitars which we sold off cheap – not yours if you ordered it. Most of the damaged ones were minor stuff – usually end strap pins pushed into the bodies in-transit. We also sold any one-off demonstrators/prototypes. The Jeavons’ retired in about 83 and sold the business to the Summerflelds who would only stock their ranges – that plus the keyboard age killed off a 40+year old business.
What I really regret is that I threw out all of the catalogues and promo stuff
Anyhow – if you were sold your double-neck by someone with ginger hair, 'twas me. And I hope you’ve had many years of enjoyment from it.
Dave_g – re Arbiter. I think they were imported by a company called Dallas-Arbiter based in London. Can’t remember if they were part of CBS-Arbiter |
Padraic
Username: Padraic
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 3:13 pm: | |
Billy
wonderful!  Isn't the Internet marvellous! Wish I'd known at the time that there were bargains to be had in Jeavons so close to home. I DO remember gawping at an Ibanez Moderne in Jeavons; I'd never seen anything so ugly! Now... well, I must have mellowed 'cos I would love one!
I still have the 2402 (from my Jimmy Page phase you understand..  ). I suspect that you WERE part of the sale; it's a bit sketchy now, but I seem to recall a red-headed lad there.
Best wishes
Padraic |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 22, 2005 - 5:23 pm: | |
Yo Padraic – this is getting a bit creepy.
I remember the Moderne very clealy. It was virtually useless without a strap. We got it at the same time as a Korina bodied flying V and an Korina Explorer. The Explorer was one of the best guitars I’ve ever played (not just Ibanez) and as I’ve posted in another thread – one of perhaps 4 that I’d wished I’d bought – bugger !!!! It also sounded very very sweet.
The Moderne, we had to reduce the price drastically to get rid of it – honest ! There was absolutely no interest in it whatsoever. How things change. I’m going to try to dig out some old pics coz I think the Moderne is on one – have them scanned and will post next week |
Tim_walker
Username: Tim_walker
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, April 24, 2005 - 7:38 pm: | |
Gosh, do you know anyone from JSG (now Spectre) in Bingley, where I bought my first Ibanez in 1982. One of the main men there (cant remember his name!) now works for John Hornby Skewes in Leeds. Also, do you have any info in the 'Cimar' Ibanez's? |
Padraic
Username: Padraic
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 2:25 am: | |
Billy
no intention to unnerve you there my son! Looking forward to seeing your pics.
Padraic |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 3:33 pm: | |
Hi Padriac – life’s creepy and full of strange coincidences e.g 30years on and we both remember the same guitar – who has it? . I finally found the piccies and got a friend to scan them. They’re in black and white and feature Ike Isaacs – bear in mind Summerfield’s jazz background .
The Moderne is hiding around the corner but you can clearly see it’s there. This plus a few other similar pictures with the same background are all I have. I’m sure some of the other guys will be able to name some of the other guitars.
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Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 25, 2005 - 3:49 pm: | |
Agghhhh
Another try with the picies. I've reduced them in case they were too big
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Padraic
Username: Padraic
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2005 - 5:34 pm: | |
Picking up Billy's original thread, it's worth mentioning that Ibanez guitars were relatively expensive here in the UK in the 70s. I was lucky enough to spend a year in the USA between 76 and 77; there it was common to actually own a real Gibson if you were a budding guitarist. Relatively speaking, Gibsons there cost around 50 to 60% of their price in the UK at that time. Copies were unheard of in the US at that point, and my cheapo Columbus Les Paul was not well received when I was there because people could not understand why anyone would want a copy. OK; it wasn't a good guitar either!  Back in the UK in 77, Gibsons were very expensive (still are) and Ibanez instruments were also well out of reach for most of the budding teenage musicians because of their price. There was a proliferation of cheaper, poorer copies such as Avon and Shaftsbury filling the lower end of the market. These were much cheaper than Ibanez guitars, and were widely available. I think this also explains why Antorias sold well at the time (being well made and lower priced), and why it's very hard to find Ibanez copies for sale now in the UK. There simply were never that many sold originally. Sad, but true. I think US and Australian posters here have it good because Ibanez guitars were (and are) better priced! Great for you, but not so good for us... Never mind. |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 28, 2005 - 5:12 pm: | |
I agree with all that Padraic. Had my share of Avon's (GRIM!) and Shaftsbury too. I've stated in previous threads on the site that the Summerfield rep took great umbridge that the Antoria (JT Coppock?) range were cheaper but exactly the same spec as the Ibanez branded guitars he was selling.
However, I recall the Summerfield rep saying that the Antoria's were made of cheaper materials or consisted of more "offcuts" ..... rubbish I say.
six |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 3:25 pm: | |
Hi,
I also started with a Columbus Les Paul. Bought it from Bells via their catalogue and paid for by doing a paper Round. I upgraded the fake humbuckers to Ibanez but it was still crap. Wish I still had it though. |
Padraic
Username: Padraic
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2005 - 5:39 pm: | |
Hi Billy, not wanting to further unnerve you, but do you remember that I traded my Columbus Les Paul in at Jeavons for the doubleneck? Please tell me that your Columbus Paul wasn't black with a replecement tuner on the B string?  If so, ooohh dear
Padraic |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 30, 2005 - 3:00 am: | |
Hi Padriac - not the same guitar. As I said, I bought it from Bells as you could pay monthly and I used to send off a postal order each month |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, July 26, 2005 - 3:45 pm: | |
Antoria V that's had a refin
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33040&item=7339406879&r d=1&ssPageName=WDVW
six |
Stewedrat1947
Username: Stewedrat1947
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, December 09, 2006 - 9:00 pm: | |
In answer to Johns question - C Summerfield Ltd was dissolved in the early 90's (according to the Companies House website), I checked this out before sending info to an Ebay Seller. Maurice, the director responsible for importing guitars now writes & sells books/CD's thru his publishing company Ashley Mark. See http://www.ashleymark.co.uk or their internet sales site at http://www.fretsonly.com. I worked for CSL 1968-73 & delivered CSL branded (& Ibanez branded) guitars all over central & southern England and still maintain an interest in the instruments. There's a CSL branded goldtop LP 'lawsuit' copy on sale on Ebay till 15/12/06, item number 300058670639
Stewart |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, December 10, 2006 - 8:59 am: | |
Hi Rat,
Welcome mate. There must be some great stories you can tell us all here. We have become very interested in the hybrid models that turn up on ebay. Did you ever come aross anything unusual during the time you were at CSL?
I worked for the 'Berry Piano's' chain of shops in the east London/Essex area in the late 70's. Are you familiar with those old (and now probably well gone) chain of stores?
six |
Stewedrat1947
Username: Stewedrat1947
Registered: 12-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 13, 2006 - 8:52 pm: | |
Hi Six
If they sold CSL/Ibanez then I probably delivered to Berrys. Can't remember his name but our rep lived in Dagenham near the Ford plant. Other things/brands we distributed were Kawai organs & Star drums, in my time I went to all the well known shops such as Francis Day & Hunter, Orange, Marshall, Boosey & Hawkes in London, Carlsbro in Mansfield & funnily enough John Hornby Skewes in Garforth - it was just a small business operating out of a converted church back then. Don't remember anything out of the ordinary, but do remember they did nice SG copies in particular the EB0 SG bass copy. Oddly enough despite having 4 electrics, 2 basses & 3 acoustics between son & myself, none of them are CSL's. Because of my name, my real 'want' is a Burns
Stewart |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 1:30 am: | |
Yes, I remember Kawai guitars later on. The weird moon thing and other shapes. The old Burns stuff is hard to come by these days in original condition.
six |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 7:33 am: | |
I was in a local guitar shop recently and they had a Burns Flyte in stock. When I told him that we had to almost give them away in the early 80’s he didn’t believe me – god they were crap.
My old boss (Jeavons) bought up a load of bankrupt stock from Burns in the early 70’s (Burns seemed to stop trading quite often). We sold off loads of Burns Pick-ups, bridges etc – should have bought a boat load of the stuff. We also had a Burns 12 string – Bison I think – in green sunburst. We had that for about 3 years and just about gave that away.
Yeah – If I knew then what I know now………………. |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 7:09 pm: | |
Hi Billy. Do you recall who was the dealer in west London who had loads of Burns, Hofner and Eko bodys and necks for sale? They had lots of parts too.
six |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Friday, December 22, 2006 - 7:19 am: | |
Hi Sixvsix
Sorry don't know - I think there's a company called Bartoloni's that still sells EKOs |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 2:05 am: | |
I think that is the one I'm on about. Thanks
six |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 03-2005
| | Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 7:55 am: | |
Hi Sixvsix
Dug out some old mags and found who I really meant. Brandoni's ????
http://www.brandoniguitars.co.uk/ |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Monday, January 01, 2007 - 11:50 pm: | |
Yes that's it. My Italian is rubbish. Cheers mate
six |
Mikeferrara
Username: Mikeferrara
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2007 - 8:40 am: | |
Hi Billy,
Do you know this guitar?
www.mimmoferrara.it/csl
It comes with mahogany body, Cherry-Wine finish , set neck, no flamed top (It seems to me), no diamond on headstock,no serial.
Japanese FujiGen or later korean product by CSL?
What do you think about? |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Monday, May 07, 2007 - 10:05 am: | |
From the photo’s I’d say it’s tobacco sunburst. Don’t know what year it is. The machine heads look like the lower end mid 70’s Japanese that were fitted to Ibanezes. Pull a pickup out and see if the top is solid or tap between the pickups. If possible check the pickups to see if there are 2 coils or just one in each one. I don’t remember seeing Korean Les Pauls – only Strats, but I they may have done that after I left – about 1987.
There are a lot better informed people on the site but I would guess mid 70’s Japanese |
Mikeferrara
Username: Mikeferrara
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 11:30 pm: | |
Hi Billy,
thank you for the answer.
The guitar seems to me also a japanese product but i still have doubts.
I checked pickups and body as you suggested to do.
Well, the results can be seen here:
www.mimmoferrara.it/csl/inside/
Hoping that can help to know more about it...from you and from other Ibanezers on this forum.
regards
Mike |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 11:29 am: | |
Looks Japanese to me judging by the tailpiece and bridge
The good news - seems to have a solid top
The not so good news - the pickups are only single coils. If you like them - fine. But sure would sound nice with twin coils (humbuckers)
Nice guitar |
Mikeferrara
Username: Mikeferrara
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 7:47 pm: | |
Hi Billy,
Thank you for your precious help. Yes, she is all mahogany made and has solid top. It is a very heavy guitar as most set-in neck from 70s are. High quality woods. Maybe a CSL branded Hoshino or Matsumoku japan production, I can't identify it exactly, but it appears to be more similar to an Ibanez 2350 tobacco brown sunburst...for many reasons...I think.
It seems to have "Maxon-no-logo economy" version pickups with one coil inside. The tuners are not the top but all work and sound enough fine at all.
I will try as you suggested to me, to put in some vintage Ibanez super 80 humbucker pickups and tuners I bought in perfect conditions from a UK store on ebay. That could be a further quantum leap for that guitar.
regards
Mike |
Bassassin
Username: Bassassin
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 1:32 pm: | |
Hi Mike,
I think your guitar is very likely from Fuji Gen Gakki - I don't believe CSL sourced any guitars through Matsumoku. Hoshino is the company which owns the Ibanez brand, and wasn't connected with CSL in any way I know of.
Interestingly, I recently owned an LP copy which I'm 99% sure was Matsumoku-built, which also had a bridge with the "LP Brige" spelling mistake, and also the same "LP-S" tailpiece. I'd assume both factories sourced parts from the same 3rd party.
Seems very strange to me that a good quality set neck/solid top LP copy would have budget pickups, though.
Jon. |
Mikeferrara
Username: Mikeferrara
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 7:54 pm: | |
Hi Jon,
Thank you for all the very interesting informations you shared with me.
So do you think Fuji Gen sold directly to Sommerfield? It could be a hoped solution. I read Fuji did it often in the past.
Referring to the questionable assembly, I totally agree with you.
It was an illogical behavior. But, after all, it was a commercial way out also. Maybe the japanese producers and CSL were compelled to sell a desiderable set-in neck mahogany made (an article in great demand in the '70s) with a competitive price for the EU market...
For that reasons they put in low end pickups and tuners, I believe.
Anyway, it's the lesser evil. It was enough to change pups and tuners...now it is a stunning guitar!
Well, sometimes it happens a toad can be transformed in a prince...
Thanks Jon
regards
Mike |
Bassassin
Username: Bassassin
Registered: 1-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, May 24, 2007 - 9:10 pm: | |
Hi Mike - I think Fuji Gen almost certainly sold directly to Summerfield - it would make no economic sense for Summerfield to go through a 3rd party like Hoshino, when Fuji Gen would quite happily do business with overseas importers.
CSL guitars usually seem to differ slightly rom their Ibanez counterparts - they're not quite the same models rebranded, and yours, with its cost-cutting hardware, is a good example.
I have a CSL Jazz bass, which I estimate to be from about 1980. It has no serial number, which on other Fuji Gens would suggest 1975 or earlier, but my bass has a strange hybrid headstock - it's almost identical to that of the first run Ibanez Blazer bass (which was also sold as the Cimar Stinger), but otherwise it's a fairly generic 1970s Jazz copy:
I think the headstock places it at around 1980 - it also had satin-finish lacquer, which was fashionable around that time.
Jon. |
Mikeferrara
Username: Mikeferrara
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 30, 2007 - 6:47 pm: | |
Hi Jon,
Your conclusions are very interesting to me.More closer to my way of thinking than others.You and Billy Porter removed many doubts I had on this guitar.
I better understand now what CSL guitars were and which kind of producers it came from.
cheers
Mike |
Moonshine
Username: Moonshine
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:10 pm: | |
Hi Billy,
This is my first post and I hope you can help me?
I recently decided to learn a little blues guitar (in my old age)and "borrowed" an old CLS Blazer from my son for the job. I was curious as to who or what CLS was so a little check on the internet lead me straight to this site and your posts. I was intrigued by your work history as I live in the NE and recognised some of companies you mentioned plus Saltmeadows.
I have taken a few shots of the CLS Blazer and can say I recall it being brought into the family around '82 to'84 and was looking old & tired then, with the plastics discoloured etc.
If I have done everything correctly then there should 4 pics of the guitar attached and I am wondering if you can tel me anything about this particlar guitar. Also does it have an intrinsic value as it is today, unaltered or refurbed?
If I dont get anywhere picking up a little 12 bar rhythm and a few licks(must sound like Greeny on Need your love so bad)then it may well be looking for a new home. |
Moonshine
Username: Moonshine
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 13, 2007 - 5:17 pm: | |
Hi Billy,
This is my first post and I hope you can help me?
I recently decided to learn a little blues guitar (in my old age)and "borrowed" an old CLS Blazer from my son for the job. I was curious as to who or what CLS was so a little check on the internet lead me straight to this site and your posts. I was intrigued by your work history as I live in the NE and recognised some of companies you mentioned plus Saltmeadows.
I have taken a few shots of the CLS Blazer and can say I recall it being brought into the family around '82 to'84 and was looking old & tired then, with the plastics discoloured etc.
If I have done everything correctly then there should 4 pics of the guitar attached and I am wondering if you can tel me anything about this particlar guitar. Also does it have an intrinsic value as it is today, unaltered or refurbed?
If I dont get anywhere picking up a little 12 bar rhythm and a few licks(must sound like Greeny on Need your love so bad)then it may well be looking for a new home.
\image {guitar close up} |
Moonshine
Username: Moonshine
Registered: 8-2007
| | Posted on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 8:10 am: | |
Before I let the thread go can anyone comment on this Blazer?
Is there any interest in these guitars?
I may try a part trade against something better but dont want to take it to a shop if they will not be interested in taking it off my hands |
Standardfour
Username: Standardfour
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:47 am: | |
Hey there, I was recently given an old Sumbro SG while living in Liverpool. It's my new favourite guitar and leaves my Jerry Donahue Telecaster for dust. No serial number, open book headstock, and how about the Les Paul scratch plate? Bizarre huh. The tone is rich and makes the Tele sound like the cheap toy. Haha, sweet deal.
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Standardfour
Username: Standardfour
Registered: 10-2007
| | Posted on Friday, October 19, 2007 - 10:52 am: | |
Ah man, my photos didn't come up. Maybe this time.
[IMG]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x285/aramunui/S 7001438.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x285/aramunui/S 7001435.jpg[/IMG] |
Billy_porter
Username: Billy_porter
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, November 25, 2007 - 11:10 am: | |
Moonshine said - }Before I let the thread go can anyone comment on this Blazer?
Apologies – I haven’t been on this forum for a while.
I can’t remember CSL Blazers. It’s a long time since I worked in the guitar trade – 20 years gone September so the memories a bit vague. I remember some CSL Strats coming into the UK in the summer 87 from Korea. These were the first shipments brought in so quality was…………………..not quite Ibanez. I cannot remember if they had Blazer on the headstock or not. |
Saynotovorderman
Username: Saynotovorderman
Registered: 11-2007
| | Posted on Monday, November 26, 2007 - 7:25 pm: | |
wow...never thought there'd be so many newcastle connections here...i am in newcastle and remember fondly visiting jeavons in my teens..buying records and being one of those annoying kids that want to try all the guitars in the shop |