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Ukulele
Username: Ukulele

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 10:44 am:   

Hi folks.

According to numbering mentioned in one closed topic (HOW TO READ A IBANEZ SERIAL NUMBER) I assume my guitar was made in Indonesia.
S/N: I020101804. But one thing is strange, It is grx 40 type, electric guitar and it is not within range for electric guitars made in indonesia (50000 - 99999). what's wrong? thanx for replies.
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, August 20, 2007 - 8:34 pm:   

Aloha Ukelele,
An I-serial number...
O.K., there we go:
I= Cort Indonesia
02= 2002
01= January
01804= production number in that month.

The Captain wrote that production numbers 00001-49999 were acoustics and the numbers 50000-99999 were electric guitars and basses.
He used a KWO example and wrote that all of the 3 Indonesian factories used the same system.
I guess that does NOT go for the production numbers in the Indonesian Cort factory. (Cort Korea doesn't divide its production numbers in this way either as far as I know).
The system IS however built up the same way: FACTORY, YEAR and MONTH, so that you can determine WHEN it was made.

Some counting methods are typical for one specific production plant. You can see the same in the daily production numbers of Gibson guitars from the Bosemann Montana factory: they started to count from 500, So guitar 501 was actually guitar 1 (while in Nashville they started at 001).
If you give the competition the impression that you can produce more than 500 good flattops in ONE day, you drive them totally nuts.
If they would try to make as many guitars as they think you make, they will make mistakes resulting in guitars of poor quality.
And all these disappointed customers wish they had bought your product and will... next time!


Ginger
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2007 - 6:57 am:   

Oops, my example of two Gibson factories that don't use the same serial number system SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY 'ROUND!
Bozeman started to count from 001
Nashvill started to count from 500.

(Source: "Gibson Fabulous Flat-Top Guitars")


Ginger
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Ukulele
Username: Ukulele

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 4:13 pm:   

thanx for your posts, it is interesting how can serial number, especially count of made products lead to poor quality products of other competitive company :-)
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 6:08 pm:   

Yeah, funny isn't it?
I'm very glad I found this for EUR 10.- and yet another good second hand guitar book, Tom Wheeler: "American Guitars" 1982 FIRST EDITION for only EUR 17.50 in a local second hand book shop.
I found the same 1st edition for $75-149 on the internet. Unbelievable. Two beautiful books for EUR 27.50
I already had a translated version of Tom Wheeler's other book "The Guitar Book" (1974-1979), which was published in Dutch by Becht in 1979.
I read that Ibanezfreak1960 had "American Guitars", so we walk by that shop window and I say "Wait a minute, dear I'll be right back!" and came out with these two beauties. Some of the stories are really amazing, like Leo Fender saying he wouldn't want his company back even if they added money to it, because he would have to lock too many doors every night.

Real nice guitar history by one of the best authors in the field.
And "Gibson Fabulous Flat-Top Guitars" was written by 3 flattop specialists, writing different chapters and checking each other, which is good of course. Really nice.


Ginger

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