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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2007 - 10:59 pm:   

Ebay Item #170170682417

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Lots of great pics. I wish all auctions had pictures like this auction. Too bad about the lacquer near the jack.

mk
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2007 - 7:42 pm:   

Oops...should be in the Contemporary Section.

Johns - feel free to move.

mk
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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 3-2004
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 5:35 pm:   

That a nice guitar and its gone. The seller added a lot of detailed pics.
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Davehowardcustom
Username: Davehowardcustom

Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 5:13 pm:   

There's something fishy about this guitar!

First of all, if it is a 100% original 80's AR300, why does it have the new style bridge that's used on the Korean re-issues?

Secondly, Look on the treble side at the neck joint: Looks like a sloppy, scratchy job of scraping the cherry finish from the binding in that area (not to mention the weird "wipe marks" on the binding itself). If you look closely, it does NOT look like an 80's factory Poly finish. They were like glass. This actually looks like a hand rubbed Nitro-cel finish (which isn't bad, just not correct).

And lastly: Look VERY CLOSELY at the serial number. Looks hand written, and a little "wobbly" there. The numbers definately aren't stamped. May be a hand (paint marker) written SN and a "Crafted in Japan" decal.

My guess is that someone took a Korean re-issue, stripped & re-finished it & put a vintage looking serial number on it. (I've thought about snagging one of those Korean ones & doing the same thing, but for MY PERSONAL use & gratification.....NOT to sell as a Japanese Vintage AR300). I think they added some nice NOS vintage pickups & hardware, but dropped the ball on the bridge.

Pretty guitar, but man for 1500 Beans, I'd be hesitant without more convincing proof it is a real 80's vintage model. Wonder who bought this one & hope I'm wrong & they got a beautiful killer vintage Artist, with a swapped out bridge.

DHC
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Agr
Username: Agr

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 6:26 pm:   

Dave,

I didn't really look this over closely but I have an 83 AR300 and AR305...both used this bridge.
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Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 7:03 pm:   

The trisounds look original to me.

mk
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 9:31 pm:   

looks like a pretty typical 80's artist except for the nut (should it be a 1/2 and 1/2 ?) and the cloud -notice the logo is inside a box.....I don't own any 80's era Artists-the nut and cloud on the 70's versions are different
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 10:57 pm:   

The boomerang strap buttons were introduced in 1983, as was the GibraltarII bridge, and QCII tailpiece. That's what's fitted to that particular guitar. The nut on my '82 AR305 isn't 1/2 & 1/2, it's the same as the one in the picture. The speed knobs look correct to me, too, but I must say the cloud adornment has me intrigued. I can't recall having seen one previously with the letters in relief in an etched surround. That's a new one on me.
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Dspellman
Username: Dspellman

Registered: 8-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:29 am:   

Um...No sustain block on the 1983's? This one doesn't have one...
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Agr
Username: Agr

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:43 am:   

Here is a pic of my 83 AR300 and my 83 AR305. Neither has a sustain block.

Artists
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Johns
Username: Johns

Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 12:57 am:   

The '83 Roadstar and Artist catalog shows that most ARs had the cloud with the logo in the rectangle.
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Agr
Username: Agr

Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 1:03 am:   

By the way...if you can't tell in my pic...the nut on both guitars is original and 100% bone (not half brass).
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Craigjc
Username: Craigjc

Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 11:29 am:   

Might be the real deal, but I think the variation of wear on the gold plating, along with the condition of the toggle switch ring, makes me speculate it being all original.

Look at the Weir the guy's selling. Definitely some dings but "no repairs done and doesn't need any"...look at the neck joint. There's too much damage - even marks at the glue joint. This definitely suggests the neck had to be reset.
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Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 11:12 pm:   

The sustain block on the solid body Artist must have been discontinued post 1982, mine certainly has one.

JohnS, you know, I'd never previously noticed the Ibanez logo inside the rectangle. I really must try cleaning my glasses!

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