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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 9:26 am: | |
Is it what he says it is?
Is it worth more than a minty STUDIO?
Do the electronics look original?
Is this headstock shape normal?
Isn't this a ridiculously high price?
Ginger |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 9:31 am: | |
Forgot to click the button:
Ebay Item #140100022524
Ginger |
Floridanative
Username: Floridanative
Registered: 2-2007
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 9:52 am: | |
I am not anywhere near an expert on these things, but a quick glance at the Ibanezrules catalog for 1981 reveals a different headstock design for the Artist.
http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1981/p04.jp g
I didn't find a picture of a 1982 model, but I know these guys will chime in with good information soon. |
Roadartstar
Username: Roadartstar
Registered: 8-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 10:56 am: | |
I dont think its worth that much, seems very very high for what it is |
Tristan
Username: Tristan
Registered: 3-2005
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 12:11 pm: | |
There were many "mishaps" with those catalogs.
Sometimes, a '81 serial has an 80 or 82 guitar, so it might differ.
I think the price is pretty outrageous and I almost fell asleep reading his mumbo jumbo. I rather read a full transcription of Star Trek technobabble..  |
Yogi
Username: Yogi
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 12:26 pm: | |
Ginger,
to answer your questions briefly:
Yes (except for the maple center block)
I don't think so (depends on the ST-Model, though)
Yes
Yes
definitely YES!
Juergen |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 2:23 pm: | |
The wood is very much like my mahogany ST50, except for the symmetry of the body and the headstock.
So I was think the value is perhaps about 50 dollars higher.
Pity we have no 1982 price list available. Ibanezrules jumps from 1980 to 1984 and what comes closest is the 1980 AR50 BK (listed $375).
I'm glad to see that we're on one line here, Jürgen
Ginger |
Tubescorcher
Username: Tubescorcher
Registered: 3-2004
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 2:39 pm: | |
Didn't we give someone crap about selling one of these too high in price about a year or two ago? He changed his price to a more reasonable one after the ribbing he took. |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 8:14 pm: | |
There's a lot of info already posted on the AR30. Do a search on AR30.
Yeah, the seller's price is WAY high. I couldn't make it thru all the description. |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Friday, March 23, 2007 - 11:53 pm: | |
this model has been debated over and over in this forum, just search AR30 and you can find a TON of info on it.
Ths seller, while quite verbose, knows absolutely NOTHING about this guitar ! He keeps raving about the fact that the guitar is worth so much to him, yet he misses the very fact that -in Ibanez Vintage Terms-its actually a pretty RARE guitar ! He doesn't even bother to do the research, yet he posts a really ridiculous BIN price.....its really silly !
Under normal circumstances, you can snag one of these for less than $400 and they are very cool guitars ! |
Captainibanez
Username: Captainibanez
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 4:01 am: | |
Guy's I have this listed in my 1982 price list.
Ibanez AR30BS
Ash and maple body
Birch neck 22 frets
2 x Super 70 open pickups
Controls: 2x volume ,1 tone,1 phase switch
Retail price $499.00 australian dollars
Seems like a "entry level" Artist to me
;0 |
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 8:40 am: | |
Birch neck??????
Can you confirm Dave? |
Yogi
Username: Yogi
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:07 am: | |
Here are the original specs of the AR30 as provided by JD:
Juergen |
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 9:42 am: | |
Maple 3-ply makes more sense.
To me..... |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 3:02 pm: | |
Dave:
Aren't these pretty much a Studio in an Artist's clothing? It may be an economy-budget AR, but it appeals to me. (So do the better Studios.) Betcha it would look neat in natural. |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 3:29 pm: | |
John, I have always been a fan of the AR30 (I now own 8 of them), Not only for the rarity, but the simplicity of design is appealing to me. These guitars are light and really WAIL...I don't think the studios are made of the same wood (Japanese Ash) , aren't the Studios (at least the ST50/55/70 Mohagany ? |
Tigerstripe
Username: Tigerstripe
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 3:08 am: | |
why would you pay 1200 when you can get an ar300 for about 1/2 that price.This guy must be smoking crack.I love his rational for his price-cuz he doesnt really wanna sell it???...i think the axe will stay firmly in his dead cold hands for a very long time.You see all kinds geniuses on e flake. |
Captainibanez
Username: Captainibanez
Registered: 1-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 3:16 am: | |
Paul, Jurgen, sorry guys a typo in my old 82 Australis Music pricelist. |
Gpii
Username: Gpii
Registered: 3-2007
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 12:09 am: | |
I never thought I would be quoting a cartoon figure, but those are the kindest words I can use here to describe this Auctioneer.
"What a maroon!" - Bugs Bunny.
Well, the item didn't sell. No big surprise to anyone but the seller. I'll bet the "seller" just thought we all couldn't appreciate it as much as he apparently does. |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 8:09 am: | |
He relisted it and dropped the BIN $200. Still $1,000.00 is unrealistic.
Ebay Item #140101081789 |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 10:18 am: | |
Unrealistic ? Understatement of the year ! |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 28, 2007 - 4:47 pm: | |
I say $500-600 tops...
Just a bit higher than a minty ST50.
Ginger |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 5-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 8:56 am: | |
It's down to $699.99 now.
Minus the OSHC is about $600.- for the guitar.
Mmmm... perhaps he has a chance to sell it now, but this is the absolute MAX IMHO.
Ginger |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 9:24 am: | |
Here's the link to the $699.99 BIN auction:
Ebay Item #140103865829 |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 8:49 am: | |
I think it is a very nice $350 guitar with case and that this seller is way too optimistic on his price ! (remember each unsuccessful auction cost the buyer like $6....) |
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 9:20 am: | |
Sold for 699,99.......... |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 12:27 pm: | |
Well, you never get what you don't ask for. He asked for it and found someone who was willing to pay.
I wonder if the buyer is an ICW member? |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 1-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 05, 2007 - 5:41 pm: | |
Somehow I think there is more to this than that John. The "winner" is a music store that basically sells on ebay with only a couple of purchases. All of a sudden this store has a hankering for an overpriced Ibanez ? Got immediate feedback from the seller too ! Call me the devils advocate, but EBay just never works that way, buyers and seller have patterns to their activities........then again, mabey this buyer just had a need for an incredibly overpriced guitar......ya just never know |