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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 9:04 am:   

The seller of this AR100 already doubted that it would be an AR200.

Ebay Item #140119092137

Someone wrote that it would be an AR300.

What do we see?
- Dots + V-2's, so that leaves open: AR50 and AR100
- gold original hardware > excludes AR50, what remains is: AR100.

Check it in this catalogue:
http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1981/p04.jp g

http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1981/p05.jp g

So the first corrector was corrected correctly by the second.

Next question: is $950.- not too much for an AR100?

Model No. Description Year Price Condition
AR100 Artist 1981 420 9
AR100 Artist 1981 575 8
AR100 Artist (White) 1982 500 9
AR100 Artist 1981 595 8
AR100 Artist (CW) 1982 499 7
AR100 Artist (White) 1982 481 9
AR100 Artist (VB) 1981 450 7
AR100 Artist (Black) SET NECK 198x 549 9
AR100 Artist (CW) 1983 430 8
AR100 Artist (AV) 1980 780 9
AR100 Artist (AV) 1982 668 7
AR100 Artist (CS) 1982 699 8
AR100 Artist (TB) 1981 450 8
AR100 Artist (VB) 1984 599 9
AR100 Artist (White) 198x 435 8
AR100 Artist (AV) 1983 607 0
AR100 Artist (White) 1982 620 9
AR100 Artist (AV) 1981 495 8
AR100 Artist (White) 1980 330 7
AR100 Artist (White) 1982 585 9
AR100 Artist (AV) 1982 456 7
AR100 Artist 1981 611 9
AR100 Artist 1982 404 7
AR100 Artist (WH) 1982 1130 9
AR100 Artist 1984 560 8
AR100 Artist 1981 599 8
AR100 Artist 1982 405 8
AR100 Artist 1980 475 8
AR100 Artist (FR) 1982 465 9
AR100 Artist (WH) 1982 420 8
AR100 Artist 1980 675 9
AR100 Artist 1979 660 9
AR100 Artist 1981 583 9
AR100 Artist 1981 497 9
AR100 Artist 1982 371 8
AR100 Artist 1982 495 9
AR100 Artist 1983 400 8
AR100 Artist 1982 499 9
AR100 Artist 1983 425 9
AR100 Artist 1983 575 9
AR100 Artist 1981 588 9
AR100 Artist 1982 660 9
AR100 Artist 1980 959 9
AR100 Artist 1980 420 7
AR100 Artist 1981 405 7
AR100 Artist 1981 660 9

Hmm, $699 for a CS, $780 for an AV $959 for what? and $1130 for a white one. Hmm, considering that these are old data $950 could indeed be reasonable. We're talking Artist with gold hardware here and all original, very little damage and OHSC.

Let's follow the auction...


Ginger
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Talajuha
Username: Talajuha

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 12:03 pm:   

Beautiful but a bit pricey IMHO

BTW, a friend is trying to dicker the price of an AR105AV. Seller is asking 900€. It is in worse condition than this AR100, nasty looking scratches on the bottom among others.

Juha
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 7:09 pm:   

WOW thats a really nice $600 guitar !
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 9:20 am:   

If you say so. (In fact I was thinking the same until I checked RussellW's database, which surprised me with those 4 expensive ones).
Are you going to list one or more good AR100 guitars, Dave? Or are you considering the legal construction and lease back?

So you say $600.- allright.
I say + $90.- for the (O?)HSC, which looks basically the same as my 1983 AM case. Very good and expensive cases with excellent neck support.


Ginger
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 2:29 pm:   

"Are you going to list one or more good AR100 guitars, Dave? Or are you considering the legal construction and lease back?"

Ginger..we must have lost something in the translation..What are u trying to say here ?
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 7:38 pm:   

Well, you promised not to OWN more than 50 guitars when you're 50.
But you have more than 50 keepers.
So if you create a legal persona (like an inc. or an ltd. on the Canal Islands who becomes the legal owner of your "stringed instrument museum", let's call it "Hareem ltd." of "Hareem inc.), you can lease back the keepers from the inc. and you are just consuming the property of the inc., like you rent a picture or a statue from a gallery.

It's a legal construction to fullfill your promise without loosing the usufruct of the hareem.

In Holland companies really do this kind of things to pay less taxes for the posession of their buildings.

So are you really going to sell several hunderds of guitars in the next 3 years (among them one or more AR100s?), which could make you a very sad man... (we've seen that before)
or are you going to consider the above legal construction in order to keep a few more than 50 and stay a happy man. Because from 500 something down to 50 is quite a step.

And IF you are going to sell AR100s, is $600.- all you expect for them? Because the high euro could help you to get even better prices. I think 440 euros is a VERY attractive -not to say cheap- price for European collectors, because they are used to pay as many euros for it as you'd pay dollars.


Ginger
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Snowjays
Username: Snowjays

Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 8:33 pm:   

LOL.... I really can't believe this sh*t.

Dave, it'll take months for him to get over this one.
Haven't laughed this much in ages......
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 9:53 pm:   

I am speechless !!....and if you know me, thats a VERY RARE event !!!!

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