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Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 3:17 pm: | |
hi,
can anyone tell me, what model this is and if its build in 87 or 97?
serial-no. on the back of the headstock says F717653. Neckplate says Ibanez / Made in Japan.
Mechanics are Made in Japan. Neck has got a skunk-stripe. It also has a mini-toggle for Out-Of-Phase in Positions 2 and 4.
tks
maggy |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 5:57 pm: | |
I'd say it's a Roadstar RG something, I'll look it up for you.
Fuji Gen Gakki, 1987, guitar nr. 17653 of that year made at Fuji Gen.
Be back soon
Ginger |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:08 pm: | |
According to the 1986 catalogue on the German distributor's website it should be an RG135WH (White).
Ginger |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:14 pm: | |
thanks ginger,
first I thought so too, but it has a different headstock, compared to the 86 catalogue on the meinl-webside.
could it be a newer one?
maggy |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 6:43 pm: | |
Oh eh, Maggy, did I welcome you already? Guess not... Sorry, I always go straight to the matter.
Welcome to ICW, gnädiges Fräulein!
(Bow, take hat off etc. etc.)
Proud to have a new lady player/collector aboard.
OK, your question.
Looks like they first used all old blazer necks and gradually started to use the new pointy ones.
I looked mainly at the pick-ups and the bridge.
I think this is a "transition model".
1987 is a difficult year, because there was no overall catalogue available.
But we've got a specialist aboard, called Mr. Roadstar, aka The Bear, probably hibernating right now. If you wake him up very gently, he might have some additional information for you.
Ginger |
Lespaul
Username: Lespaul
Registered: 10-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 7:05 pm: | |
Pssstttt Ginger,
Stationc is posting here for about a year or two. Why the welcome? 
Paul |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 7:11 pm: | |
no ginger,
sorry but I am no newie and I am really not a girl!!
it is my nickname since more than 30 years. most of the peaple don not even know my real name. it is the same way like people call you ginger (I read that story).
so, how can I wake up mr. roadstar? got an advice?
lol
maggy (stephan) |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 9:44 pm: | |
I must have mixed up your 12 with my 2006.
Oh my God, and I just called you gnädiges Fräulein!
This is hilarious!
Has it got something to do with Maggi in the soup?
By the way, is there a connection with the keyboard manufacturer Marquardt, who made the first ergonomic keyboard for the PC, developed in cooperation with the Fraunhofer-Institut?
They were DM 650.- then (I'm using Microsoft Natural and Natural Elite since 1997).
Waking up The Bear... is usually done with the smell of warm honey. Give him what he likes: a thread with the word Roadstar and a question mark in it.
I hope he didn't drink too much Christkindl Glühwein. I read all of the tested Glühwein in the German (and the Dutch) supermarkets contains METHANOL, this could cause a terrible headache, hair loss, even teeth loss. Pure poison! I smelled something wasn't right about the wine, and looked for the combination Glühwein and Methanol on Google and found these recent test results (2006).
Anyway, if he had some, just let him sleep...
and give him a lot of honey in his tea in the morning against the hangover. Then show him some lovely Roadstar pictures and he's a happy Bear.
Ginger |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 3:54 am: | |
yes ginger,
it has got something to do with maggi-soup. and so my mates used to call me till the first english-lesson......
and no ginger, I got nothing to do with that ergonomic keyboard, I prefer guitar...!
so lets see...., do I have honey in my kitchen???
txs |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 02-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 8:32 am: | |
Stationc:
The serial number indicates a 1987 model and is consistent with the shape of the headstock. But the guitar looks like a 1986 RG135WH. The string retainers and 22 fret Rosewood fretboard with rounded ends is consistent with the '86 RG135. I don't think it's another model neck on the RG135 body.
The lack of '87 literature does hamper trying to be definitive, though. Another mystery or a true transition guitar?
Summoning Mr_Roadstar is related to waking the "Bear". It's pretty much hibernation season here, so enter the cave and poke the Bear with a pointy stick, at your own peril. 
Follow this link and click on his username to open an email addressed to him.
http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=14&post=56699#POST56 699 |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 10:55 am: | |
thanks,
I did so. lets see if I took enough honey (lol) |
Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 3:20 pm: | |
How many geniuses does it take to figure out that this is a 1987 Roadstar RG135? You know, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck...
The interesting thing is the Fugi Gen build. Most of the '87 RG100 series was Korean built. And not very well...
The concave upper curve on the pickguard and the pointy headstock were new for 1987.
Yes, 1987 literature does exist. I have the Roadstar fold-out and some single page spec sheets for the Roadstar Pro stuff.
The Bear |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 4:10 pm: | |
thanks bear!
are there any differences in the specs between the 87 and the older 86 roadstar?
greets
maggy |
Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 4:18 pm: | |
Good question. Other than obvious visual differences, I can't tell you. There's no detail in the '87 literature.
The Bear |
Fingersmcoy
Username: Fingersmcoy
Registered: 10-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 27, 2006 - 7:32 pm: | |
Aflac!<Walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, not a duck though.He heheh hahah i kill me !Thats a nice looking guitar for the year wow! You buying or selling- maggie soup? |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 3:28 am: | |
selling this rar beautiful geetar??? this one of a kind??? are you..... how much??? lol
yeah, probably I will sell it, cos my dream came true and I shot a more rare and much more expensive bird. I used to own from 1977 to 1984 and always wanted to get back. I will send more pics if it arrives.
 |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 12:58 pm: | |
I find a "Korina" (actually it's limba) V very beautiful, but not to play. Strat-based models like the Blazers and the Roadstars are ergonomically better designed guitars.
You miss them, once they're gone.
Ginger |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 7:44 pm: | |
hi ginger,
of course, the strats are more ergonomic and I have a lot of strats or stratlikes, but I am a V-fanatic. I even got a flying-v-tatoo and in my bandlogo there also is a flying v. I got a couple of em (about 15), even an ibz-rr-senior from 77, but this one will be no.1.
by the way. is it really limba? I thought it is japanese ash....?!
greets
maggy |
Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 8:21 pm: | |
I thought the Ibanez "Korina Finish" was actually stained Ash.
The Bear |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 10:25 pm: | |
On the original Gibby "Korina" was a fantasy name for limba wood. Never had an Ibanez Flying V in my hands, so I've no idea what wood they used, but the actual Korina is not a finish, but a wood. I have for instance a Korina strat body in purple burst (still looking for a nice fitting neck).
Ginger |
Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier
Registered: 05-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, December 28, 2006 - 10:28 pm: | |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminalia_superba |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 6:43 am: | |
we never stop learning!!!
well done, ginger!! |
Mr_roadstar
Username: Mr_roadstar
Registered: 06-2002
| | Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 8:38 pm: | |
I am well aware that Black Limba and White Limba are often referred to as "Korina". My question was whether Ibanez, not Gibson, actually used Limba on the "Korina Finish" guitars. I remember reading somewhere that the bodies were actually Ash.
The Bear |
Stationc
Username: Stationc
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Friday, December 29, 2006 - 9:20 pm: | |
as far as I know, it must have been ash. wether it is stained ash, or japanese ash, I really can not answer, but I am sure, they never used korina (or limba) on the "ibanez korina-line" (destroyer, flying v, moderne)
maggy |