Sabre Double Neck

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Author Message   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 3:22 pm:    Hey Guys, I just bagged a Sabre Double Neck in Black. Does anyone have any info on these? I know Larry Mitchell played one. Any help would be appreciated. Peace!   Mr_roadstar Username: Mr_roadstar Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 4:21 pm:    I know these have discussed here before, but I couldn't find the right Search perameters to retrieve the threads. I do know there were two models; a 6/12 and a 6/7. Less than 50 of each were produced if memory serves. The Bear   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Sunday, January 21, 2007 - 4:49 pm:    Thanks Bear! That would make them somewhat rare then. I know I've seen them on E-Bay in excess of $2k on a few auctions if memory serves me correct. I can't find much info though. Peace!   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 10:19 pm:    Here is link from a previous posting that should give you the info you are after. http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/us/1991/s_2.jpg   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Monday, January 22, 2007 - 11:52 pm:    Thanks Silverstrings! Waiting for the guitar to be delivered. I think I did extremely well as far as price. I haven't had a Floyd design since the 80's. Can't wait till it arrives. Peace!   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 3:16 pm:    Tube is your a 6/12?   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 23, 2007 - 8:31 pm:    Yeah Freak. It's a 540STN 12 on top 6 below. Black.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 10:23 am:    Cool,I've been wanting a twin neck for a while but have'nt come across one that suits my budget yet. That model is one I've been interested in.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 11:26 am:    Hey Freak, I picked it up for $750 delivered. From what I hear there were only 50 made. There is a link on one of the threads about this model to a Swedish web site. They have one listed for $3700 US or 24,900 Kron. Don't know if they'll get that though. I've also seen the 6/7 double. Ed Roman has one for $6,995. One recently sold on e-bay for 1,900 or so from the UK. I can't get an accurate value of these. I don't know if anyone saw this on ebay last week or it's just worth what I paid. Regardless, It will have a nice home and be played and appreciated like all my axes. Peace   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 1:16 pm:    Man that was a deal!! Do you have a link to the auction?   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 1:38 pm:    Should get it by tomorrow! http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D300070617806   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 9:45 pm:    Seller, nice guy by the way said he paid $1299 for this 15 years ago. He said it barely has 10 hrs. on it. Now I really can't wait!   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 12:18 am:    Let us know how she sounds! I like the fact that its light.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 9:06 am:    Along with seeing more pictures, I'd be interested to know how much it weighs.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 3:49 pm:    Hey Guys, Just took delivery and man is it sweet. It's dirty! Not from being played. It's been in it's case for 15 years. It weighs about the same as an 80's Artist. Between 8-10lbs. Just guessing though it feels like the necks are heavier then the body. I'll be able to clean her up and restring over the weekend. Pictures will follow. BTW anyone know how to clean up frets? They look unplayed but there tarnished a bit. Peace!   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 4:37 pm:    Tube you could mask in between the frets and use a very fine steel wool. Thats what I do. maybe someone else can suggset something a little diferent with the same results.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:05 pm:    Freak, You mean with masking tape on the wood? That seems easy. With some pressure just with my finger it was coming off. I think your right with a 000 steel wool just to polish em' up. I'll try over the weekend. Thanks!   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 5:08 pm:    One more thing! Sorry I've been posting so much. Works been slow. Anyway. It has 3 knobs for tone and volume. They are Cosmo black I believe. They have a 3 tier shape with black rubber o rings at different diameters large on the bottom to smaller at top of the knob. Are these Stock? I'd like to replace the o rings because with age there cracked and stretched.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 8:22 pm:    Yeah masking tape. Sorry I forgot to mention that.   Ibnzdad Username: Ibnzdad Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:07 pm:    There is another listed. BIN $975.00 http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D200070541427   Ibnzdad Username: Ibnzdad Registered: 12-2006 Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 11:09 pm:    Ooops. Sorry not an Saber model but a '76 SG style.   Mrblanche Username: Mrblanche Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 10:05 am:    Just a hint on the masking tape. Go to a good paint store (or Home Depot, or Lowes) and get some of the colored masking tape that says it's good for 48 hours, or 7 days, or whatever. The cheap tan stuff needs to be removed in just a few hours, or it will leave a residue on the fingerboard. Sometimes it will leave a residue, even if you only put it on and take it off immediately.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 11:14 am:    Thanks for that tip. I used regular Scotch tape. I dabbed the adheasive to make it less tacky. It still pulled up a few splinters on the rosewood board. Anyone doing this in the future take consideration. Not noticable, especially after oiling the board. Anybody have any advice on turning the truss rod on the 12 string neck? Neck is really bowed after restringing and coming to full tension on the neck. Thanks!   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 12:15 am:    Hello How is that neck going? I notice from a post in the misc area that you are really enjoying this guitar. i must say that mine is a great player and i just love the variety of sounds i can get outof it. Only prob is re-stringing a floyd rose set up. But that is a small sacrifice for a fine guitar. And if nothing else, if you put a few bricks under the corners of the case you get a decent sized coffee table   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Monday, February 05, 2007 - 10:02 pm:    Neck still isn't adjusted. I don't have a truss rod tool that fits it. I believe it is a 7mm shallow socket. As soon as I find one I'll turn it. Yeah the Floyd's are a pain. I might just take it to my tech at this point.   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Sunday, March 11, 2007 - 10:05 pm:    Tube have you got your baby back yet? had the chance to take mine for a spin on the weekend. She played beautifully. When I was taking her up to the stage you could hear all the comments and then afterwards all the questions concerning the twin neck. An awe inspiring guitar even before it has a chance to strut its' stuff.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 2:54 pm:    Hey Silverstrings, I have it back but the 12 isn't playing like I'd like. Action is high! I can't get it too low or major buzz is a factor. The relief is correct. I don't know what to do. The neck might need to be shimmed. How is the action on yours? The 6 is playing fine. Thanks, John   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 6:04 pm:    John 12 plays just fine. Action is low and no problems with buzz. What strings are you using? I have on the 12 D'addario standard electric 12 set. Only problem i have is when i switch from my AR500 I find that the action on the 6 is so much higher than the AR500. a small price to pay for the aural diversity of the 540STN.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 7:13 pm:    I'm using the 12 D' addario's as well. I agree about switching from the AR500. That seems to be the only guitar I'm spanking on a regular basis. My 6 on the 540stn has really low action. You could problably try lowering the bridge and see what happens. Is the action on your 12 low all the way up the neck? Action on mine is low until about the 7th fret then proceeds to get worse the rest of the way.   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, March 12, 2007 - 9:31 pm:    John Action on the 12 is pretty much uniform for the length of the neck. i do quite a bit of work in the upper registers and notice no difference.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, March 13, 2007 - 11:35 am:    Yeah I definetly have an issue then. I'm wondering if shimming the neck closer to the neck pu will help with the action?   Ibanezuserlm Username: Ibanezuserlm Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Tuesday, November 13, 2007 - 11:09 pm:    Hey TubeScorcher, How's your double neck treating you now? Have you checked the neck angle on the 12 string? That may help get the action lower on the 12. Mine from the 1990 is not a Saber. It's an (R) Radius. Made by Mace in Bensalm PA. But am needing a new lite weight one now. Mine is way to heavy now that I'm in my 40's   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 8:13 am:    Hey Ibanezuserlm, The 12 is playing the way it should now. Like butter!!! Love this guitar. It's tonal pallette is impressive. I think I'm coming out of retirement this winter so maybe I'll get to play it live! My kids are getting older now and Daddy wants to Rock again! Just reached my 40's myself. Haven't played long enough standing up to notice the weight. Was your Radius longer scale on the 6 neck? Peace!   Ibanezuserlm Username: Ibanezuserlm Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 1:45 am:    Hey Tubescorcher, I mailed off a CD to you today. Hope you like it. You can check out my double neck in the Ibanez History book. Yes it is neck heavy. The 6 string neck is D neck. It is 2 frets longer on the head stock side so it kind of tips a bit. IT's also Very eighties. Black with Pink Dimarzio PAF pro pickups. :-) Very Eighties. The 12 string side plays really nice also. I'm thinking about playing my double neck sittiing down live now. I noticed the Mr Vai plays his Tripple neck sitting down live. Must be an over 40 kind of thing. For some reason I was thinking that the S Double neck would weigh much less than mine.   Tubescorcher Username: Tubescorcher Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Friday, November 16, 2007 - 8:09 am:    Hey Ibanezuserlm, The S is probably lighter at the body side making the necks seem even more heavy. As far as the 40 thing I look at it this way. You can't put a price on comfort. If playing the double or triple sitting down is more comfortable than so be it! I always wondered about the D neck on your double. I would count the frets over again. You could de'80's your double by putting some black PU covers on it. But I'd leave it. 80's or not it's still a cool looking guitar! Finally, thanks so much for the CD! You're an inspiration to a lot of guitar players young & old. Keep the music coming!!! I'll check your site from time to time to see if you get back to the Phila. area. Peace LM!

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