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Johns (Johns)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 8:26 am: | |
Has anybody seen an Artist like this before? http://www.gbase.com/gearlist/guitar_picture.asp?guitar=313172&home=dealer The headstock shape is definitely late 80's/early 90s. The serial number doesn't match up to any system I've heard of. And the block inlays are ALL MOP, not MOP/Abalone. The new owner is looking for any info. |
Jorgen (Jorgen)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 9:07 am: | |
Cant really tell from the pic if it has the "tri-sound" switches, but if so, It looks like a 1990´s AR-300 reissue to me... /Jörgen |
Fredb (Fredb)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 10:50 am: | |
I'd say it's one of the reissues too, besides the smaller headstock it also has the pearloid tuners that are fully white, which only the reissues have. Fred |
Gitfiddle1 (Gitfiddle1)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 2:42 pm: | |
Looking at the 1991-92 catalog (top of page 29), it apears to be an AR200. Neither the AR200 or AR300 have tri-sounds in this catalog. The differences are; Ebony(AR300) vs Rosewood(AR200) board, Maple cap on the AR300, V3 & V4 pups for the AR200, Dimarzio PAF Pro's for the AR300. Same neck dimentions and inlays. Mahogany body for both. Full binding. Cheers Steve |
Johns (Johns)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 4:14 pm: | |
Steve: Thanks for the info. What about the staight MOP block markers? What do you think of the serial number? |
Guitaki (Guitaki)
| Posted on Monday, March 04, 2002 - 6:58 pm: | |
I believe the serial would be "I9..." not "19...". I have seen others misread those too. That would make it a '89 Artist. Good year though, my car was made in '89.. ;o) (Even though it hasn't got Goodyears in it!) Forgive me, it is two o'clock in the night and I just came from the studio. Rough day. By the way, what would You think about changing my '81 AR 300's tuning machines from Velves to Smooth II's from a '86 AR350SE? Velves doesn't have tightening screws, and I am having a slight problem with the guitar staying in tune. Here is my friend's AR350: -Aki. |
Gitfiddle1 (Gitfiddle1)
| Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 2:39 am: | |
1****** serial number would be consistant with a 1991 build date. That serial number configuration is common for '88 to early '90s. And yes, the catalog shows both models having solid block inlays and the late model (Artstar) headstock. Cheers Steve |
Jorgen (Jorgen)
| Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 3:48 am: | |
Aki, usually Velvetunes seem to work fine. At least for me... Have you tightened the screws on the edge of the tuner? Sometimes those screws get loose and the tuner loosens its firmness when tuning. That could indicate tuningproblems... /Jörgen |
Guitaki (Guitaki)
| Posted on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 - 6:36 pm: | |
Jorgen, Those Velves did not have any kind of tightening screw in them. My MC300 '78 tuners had the screws (actually grooved nuts) around the tuning axel, but this AR had none. Well, I switched tuning machines with my friend, and now have the Smooth Tuner II's in my AR. Atleast they work very fine! -Aki. |
Jorgen (Jorgen)
| Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 2:10 am: | |
I dont mean those tightening screws around the tuning axel found on many 70´s models, but the screw that goes INTO the axel from the top, and holds the tuner together... Anyway, just a theory, since I had similar problems once on one of my Artists, until I tightened the screw... Glad your new tuners work fine though. /Jörgen |
Guitaki (Guitaki)
| Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 5:09 am: | |
Jorgen, do You mean the crosshead screw that is usually on top of the tuning knob in every (modern) tuner machine? The Velve tuners did not have these screws, and that is why they had gotten a bit loose. That is why I exchanged them. I have repaired a lot of guitars, and usually always those screws need a little tightening. I was very surpriced to notice that my AR didn't have those screws.. -Aki. |
Jorgen (Jorgen)
| Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 2:10 pm: | |
Well Aki, I took out my ´82 Artist and checked its Velvetune tuners, and they have that screw going into the tuning axel from the top of the tuning knob... Does it say "VelveTune" on the back of your tuners?? If so, perhaps they made different versions of it... /Jörgen |
Guitaki (Guitaki)
| Posted on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 - 6:24 pm: | |
Yes, it said "Velve Tune" at the backplate on each tuner. There might be a difference between Artists that ended up in US or in Europe..? -Aki. |
Jorgen (Jorgen)
| Posted on Thursday, March 07, 2002 - 9:47 am: | |
I live in Sweden, so my guitar would be for the european market. However, I dont really see the purpose of making different types of Velve Tunes for different markets. Perhaps this is just one of those random odditys we see from time to time... /Jörgen |
Guitaki (Guitaki)
| Posted on Friday, March 08, 2002 - 4:56 am: | |
I checked my AM255 tuners. They are also Valves and they also have the screws. Also they are shaped very differently, AM knobs are like opened eagle wings, while the AR had very simple half pill shaped flat ones. Valve Tuners have gone thru a facelift in '82? -Aki. |
Pdangel1
Username: Pdangel1
Registered: 03-2005
| Posted on Tuesday, March 08, 2005 - 10:19 am: | |
I've just purchased an ARTIST that I think is an AR100? It's black with cream binding. It has no serial number anywhere. It has the smaller headstock with MOP inlay. The pick-ups are low-end GOTOHS. The tuners have nothing on them but they look like GOTOHS? Finally, the bridge is a Gibralter 2 (says made in Japan), but it just feels like a Korean guitar. Does anybody know exactly what this is or have a catalog scan? Thanks. |
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