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Author Message   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 1:33 am:    Hi, I'm trying to Identify a Vinnie Moore guitar, is there a way with the serial # or any markings on it? Thanks for any help. Damien   Johns (Johns) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 7:33 am:    Damien: If you give us the serial number, we should be able to pinpoint a date of manufacture. But that's all the serial number will do. Then we can dig through catalogs for that period and match up the description of which models were available to your guitar. Out of all the guitars that have been discussed here, the ONLY mention of a Vinnie Moore is from a conversation in the Vintage & Custom Electrics section, entitled: "Does anybody own a Roadstar?" Here's a snippet from that thread: "The '89 book again shows no series designation on any of the headstocks. The 540P has grown the long lower horn and a reversed headstock. 540S&R don't appear to have changed much from '88. The RG series now runs from RG550 to RG760 only. The "EX" makes it's first appearance from EX120 to EX360 replacing the lower end RG's. And then there's the VM1 Vinnie Moore. It looks like an '87 Roadstar with an All Access neck joint and a Strat jack." If your's is an '89, Steve would have a catalog that would help out. So, let us know the serial number.   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 12:03 pm:    The Vinnie Moore model (VM1) only shows up in the '89 catalog. One model, 2 finishes, white and a color splattered white. Looks like an '87 Roadstar with a Strat output jack. I need the catalog in-hand for more detail. Cheers Steve   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 1:48 pm:    Hi, Thanks for your help with this. The serial # is F748439 , It seems like it is hard to get a good match on this model. Thanks again for you help, Damien   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 2:07 pm:    Damien, Interesting! The serial number indicates a 1987 build date. Must be a very early one. Do you own this one? Cheers Steve   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 2:09 pm:    Here's one on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=929067313   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 2:11 pm:    Now that I look close, it doesn't really have a Roadstar shape. Cheers Steve   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 3:30 pm:    Hi, Yes I just bought it here is the link, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=925304281 The thing is, the body is a cream color and the neck is pure white the pictures do not show the true look of the guitar. That's what worries me about it. The other guitar on Ebay on the pic you had posted is not the guitar for sale as stated. the serial # F74331 is what the person told me it was for the paint splattered guitar. I hope that info can help you with checking out the model. Thanks, Damien   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 3:52 pm:    I'm not sure I follow. The auction for the splatter finish VM1 is still running. Is this the VM1 you bought?   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 4:06 pm:    Hi, Yes it is, I also talked with the guy that is selling the paint splattered one with the serial#F754331. The guitar I have,, the pics do not show what it looks like. it is more like the body is a cream color and the neck is pure white, they don't mach in color at all. I had just mentioned the guitar that is still for sale because you had mentioned that guitar so I wanted to give you the serial # for that one because I had it. Sorry if I got everyone confused about this. Thanks again, Damien   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 5:42 pm:    Okay, things are more clear now. I wouldn't lose any sleep over the mismatch in color. There's any number of reasons why that happens. The body and neck may have been shot with different batches of paint. The body may have a thicker clear coat that has yellow more than the neck. Since this is a low production model, who's to say what process was used. The mismatch might even have been intentional. I think you've got a neat example of a rare Ibanez! Cheers Steve   Johns (Johns) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 6:17 pm:    Steve: When you get a chance could you give us the specs on this model? What kind of trem is that?   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 6:30 pm:    Hi, Thanks for all your help on this. As far as specs go, there is no name on the trem and it looks diffrent than the ones I have seen. The tuners are spritzle tuners the frets are like really jumbo, it feals allmost like a scalloped neck. The fret board looks like ebony but I have read that it is not a true ebony. I took the back plate off but could see no markings of any kind that I could see. It plays great and sounds like the pickups are hot. If you need more info let me know or if you want I could try and get some closeup pics of the trem. As far as the neck color, the guy I got it from said the same thing, I just never seen a guitar that was so off in color, If the back was whiter than the front I could see that. The color is allmost like a Vintage White cream on the body and pure white on the neck. Let me know, Thanks again, James   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 6:33 pm:    Hi, Oh, one more thing the serial # is on the back headstock #F754331 and it says made in Japan. Thanks again, Damien James..   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 6:35 pm:    Sorry, I got the serials mixed up mine is #F748439 Thanks, Damien James   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, December 11, 2002 - 9:07 pm:    From the 1989 catalog: "Designed in conjunction with Vinnie Moore, the Ibanez Star-4 (VM-1) guitar is well suited to the demands of today's virtuoso techniques. Quality materials and unique features set this instrument above the ordinary." Features: All Access Neck Joint Sperzel locking tuners Honduran Mahogany body 1 piece Maple neck Ebony fingerboard DiMarzio Double Whammy pickups Edge II bridge (Edge minus the fine tuners since there is no locking nut) That's all there is folks! No mention of the finishes. Just a photo of the 2 varieties. The back of the catalog lists SP-Splash in the finishes list. I think that would cover the splatter paint. PL-Pearl or WH-White are the only possibilities for the other. Interesting items: This has to be one of, if not the first use of the AANJ. There is no mention of it until you get to the 92-93 catalog. Also, Vinnie Moore is shown in the Radius section of the 1988 catalog holding what looks like a White VM-1! But there is no mention of that model in the catalog. Cheers Steve   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:56 am:    Steve: So do you think the guitar I have is a real VM1 from what you have seen? Is there a way you can scan the catalog of 87 -88 and send it to me or post the pics somewhere? Thanks for your help, Damien James   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 12:02 pm:    Damian, Why would you think it isn't? The unique body shape, the Edge II bridge, and the Strat output jack are VM-1 only. Not question there. The 2 photos I posted in this thread are identical to the guitars in the '89 catalog. The photo in the '88 catalog only shows part of the pickguard and upper horn. But, it looks like a white VM-1. My '87 literature is Roadstar only and I don't have a scanner, sorry. Cheers Steve   Silverwolf (Silverwolf) Posted on Thursday, December 12, 2002 - 9:52 pm:    Steve, the reason I was not sure was the diffrent color from the neck and body but also the Bridge does not look like the one's I have seen in Pics when Vinnie used this model guitar. But if you say that the bridge is the same as the catalog then I guess he used another bridge. Thanks again, For your help, Damien

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