AR2000VV Neck Twist

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Author Message   Elwood6 (Elwood6) Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 7:11 pm:    About two months ago I bought a new AR2000VV and discovered that the neck had a slight twist in it towards the headstock on the side of the first string. If you view the fingerboard from the headstock down to the body, the left side of the headstock is noticebly lower than the right side of the headstock. The twist begins at the fifth fret. It didn't alter the sound or cause tuning problems but I decided since it was brand new and still under warrenty to bring it back to Guitar Center and have them order me a new one. When I got the new guitar, it had exactly the same problem! I took the new one home and have been playing it ever since. The "twist" hasn't gotten worse but I'm still concerned that it could. A local luthier told me that this is a common attribute of many of the thin-necked guitars even among PRS, Gibson, etc. Is this true or just bullshit? I use standard tuning (A 440, with .009's) so I'm not stressing the neck with high tuning. As I said before, this isn't causing any tonality problems and this is one hell of a comfortable guitar to play so I'd like to keep it. But, I'm concerned that it may get worse. Does anyone have any suggestions? Should I return this one too while it is still under warrenty or is this just characteristic of the AR2000VV?   Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - 7:31 pm:    Sounds to me like there's been some cost cutting in the wood selection. I'd take it back and demand one with a straight neck. Especially for the $$$ you're paying. Your AR2000 should have a 3-piece neck. No way in hell should it be twisted! A twisted neck is usually caused by the wood changing shape as it dries/ages. That is why a quarter sawn blank is preferred for one-piece necks. In extreme cases, a neck will warp/twist from changes in temperature and humidity. I've strung up Wizard necks on RG's with .011's and never seen one do the twist. I call bullsh*t! Cheers Steve   Ericibanez (Ericibanez) Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:33 pm:    I'd take it back and exchange for a new one. Sometimes they will try to send it out for warrantee repairs but that type of twist may be handled in way that just covers up the problem for a while. This will almost certainly come back and haunt you. The dealer should give you a new one in exchange as this one seems defective. Since these are pretty expensive instruments you should be considered an important customer who may spend or does spend big bucks at the store. They should be happy to keep the good relations and exchange out. They will then just send it back to Ibanez as a defective guitar (or dump it for a discount). Good luck and let us know how it goes.   Craigjc (Craigjc) Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 12:35 pm:    I agree with Steve. If the neck twisted now, it could shift more in the future. Repairing a warped neck is expensive and not guaranteed to be a permanent fix. Unless you got 60% off list price (retail), take it back. P.S. If you didn't get at least 30% off list, ask for some money back with your new guitar.   Johns (Johns) Posted on Thursday, February 05, 2004 - 6:02 pm:    Elwood: I know it hurts to part with it, but I'd take it back. As everybody points out, in the future, you'll probably have problems you never even thought of. And then how are you going to sell it and get your money out of it (and be honest)?   Captainibanez (Captainibanez) Posted on Friday, February 06, 2004 - 8:38 am:    Guy's. Firstly, there are no "cost cutting measures" with this guitar. Not that I won't say that it is possible for the odd timber fault sometimes, but no cost cutting. Sometimes when I came across this problem, I would always consult our luthier on the matter and look at the options available..ie: pull the frets out and plane the fretboard etc. To clarify this entire thread, let me explain what the most likely explanation is. When the guitars are shipped to wherever in this wonderful world of ours, the guitars safely packed in there container can pass through many different weather conditions. Let's say, if a shippment was sent from Japan in there winter to Australia. It would arrive in Australia's summer. Therefore, the guitars that are packed at the top off the container are really going to take some heat, specially if the container is on the deck of the ship. I know that this is not a common practice when wood products are shipped, but sometimes it can happen. I would agree with Ericibanez, that yes this guitar should be exchanged for a new one if it is within the warranty period from the date of purchase providing that the customer can provide his proof of purchase. Cameron   Jim777 (Jim777) Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 10:14 pm:    Also consider a "new one" might be an AR3000, as the 2000 has been discontinued (and the AR3000 is thew same list price) ;-)

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