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Loekbommans (Loekbommans)
Posted on Monday, February 09, 2004 - 1:04 pm:   

Hi guys, this is my first post here!
They told me this was the place to look for answers so here goes :P

Somewhere in April 2000 I bought a Destroyer in the local guitar shop here. The model is supposed to be from '94, and according to the serial no (F427963) it is, but I have no idea what series of Destroyer it is (I originally thought DT-400 but the ones I could find don't look like this), and if it might be an import from Japan (I live in Holland and I couldn't find any info on the web on this type of Destroyer ever existing in Europe or the U.S., only older or newer & smaller models)

The pics are here, it's a bolt-on neck:
http://img20.photobucket.com/albums/v59/LoekBommans/Ibanez%20Destroyer/

(Hope I got the link working right)

So it's probably not really vintage but can anybody tell me what series this guitar is?

Thanks in advance!

Loek
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Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 4:34 am:   

Calling Laaz! He's the resident Destroyer expert. I think you may have a DT420. But, I'm not the DT guru.

Cheers
Steve
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Loekbommans (Loekbommans)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:45 am:   

Thanks Steve!
It looks a lot like the DT420 indeed!
Unfortunately, mine has dot-inlays, silver hardware instead of gold, and no 'white line' around the guitar.. (dunno if all of that can be seen in the low-res picture I put online)
Also, the DT420 is from 2000 or something, according to a quick Google search :S

Let's hope Laaz knows the answer then!

Loek
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 4:37 pm:   

Hey all. No this is not a DT-420. These were released in Europe in the early 90's. I don't know if they actually had a number for the model #. They only had the DT series logo. They may have been called simply the DT Series. Every one I have ever seen has had no model #, maybe someone with a European catalog can check it out. They all had bolt on necks & dot inlays... The DT-400 / 420 Reissues all had split block inlays. A friend of mine brought one of these back from germany when he was in the military, I didn't like it much as I am used to the setneck Destroyers & these just don't compare.
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 4:41 pm:   

Also some came with a DT logo on the truss rod cover. Loek is there any kind of number on the back of the headstock ?
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 4:55 pm:   

They are very simi;ar to the DT-380 series with the exception that the 380 only had 1 volume & 1 tone control.

dt-380
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Yogi (Yogi)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:18 pm:   

Hi guys,

maybe it's indeed a DT420: I have this '92 Destroyer with a Bolt-On neck and according to our Captain mine is a DT420FM-CS. It was only a spot production model and there were only 78 made.

Juergen


DT420-Body

DT420-Head
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:20 pm:   

Oh, on a side note. Ibanez only used the "X Series" moniker for the US market. All the Japanese Destroyers & Rocket Roll's kept their original logo's Here's a 1985 Rocket Ro;; model RR-1000BK which in the US was marketed as the Pro Line Series...

rr_1000_2
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Yogi (Yogi)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:25 pm:   

Ok, next try...

Here are the pics, hopefully...

DT420-Full

DT420-Head
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Loekbommans (Loekbommans)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:42 pm:   

Nope, headstock only says "Serial no F427963" and "Made in Japan", no other info.

Indeed looks a lot like that DT-350, except for the hardware color, pickups, knobs & tremolo

The volume/tone buttons on my DT are also unlike what I have seen on other DT's, with a transparent cap. It probably is just a 'DT series' then.. kinda strange :P

http://www.ibanez.com/guitars/series.asp?s=dt&l=a
- now that's very confusing :P
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Loekbommans (Loekbommans)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 5:46 pm:   

The headstock on my DT is exactly like Yogi's DT, except for the tremolo-lock

And I'm not sure if the DT series logo is white on that guitar, but it is on mine

It's also printed rather low (almost not on the guitar anymore), might indicate cheapness

And my tuners are chrome

Wow, so many differences in 2 really similar headstocks :S
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 8:03 pm:   

The DT series & Ibanez logos are decals applied before the clear coat. I have 5 Destroyers & the "Destroyer II" decals are all placed a little different... I still say they are not DT-420's though. The different options would designate different model numbres as well, I have never seen Ibanez use the same model # for different option setups on a Destroyer. The first I ever saw a model DT-420 was the 2002 Limited editions. Maybe the Captian can post a catlog scan...
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:07 pm:   

Yogi the Destroyer in your photos has a neck like the "EX" series had... Strange... I take it yours is also a bolt on neck ?
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Loekbommans (Loekbommans)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:24 pm:   

Yeah, I'd really like that, if it could be found in any catalog, do you have to go to the Captain's board to request such a thing or how does that work here?

And it's not a DT-420, that one looks different and is a newer model so indeed, it won't have the same number probably!
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Laaz (Laaz)
Posted on Tuesday, February 10, 2004 - 9:37 pm:   

Ibanez has re-used the model numbers in the past. The original DT-400 was available in 1981-82 as a flamed maple top, and set neck. In 1995-96 they re-issued a Destroyer as the DT-400, available in Black & Red with a bolt on neck (Basically the same as the DT-420 of 2002 but the neck was painted). It wouldn't surprise me to see them do this again, but the different options should designate different model #'s.

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