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Author Message   Rickd Username: Rickd Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:54 am:    what is or should i say "was" this?   Rickd Username: Rickd Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:55 am:    Ebay Item #130140147785   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 1:42 pm:    That's an Artstar AS80, probably 1994/'95. - DOTS; - chrome hardware; - narrow headstock; - Mickey Mouse ears; - probably replaced non-waxpotted Super 50's; - probably made in the Samick factory Korea (why probably? because if they had been Super 58's there would have been no need to replace them. Super 58's were used in the Cort factory. This combination of features with 58's was used for a very short period in the Cort factory, so it's a bit unlikely that it was made there.) The ones from Samick are just BEGGING for mods, or at least some wax-potting.) DON'T USE THE BIN: IT'S WAY OVERPRICED! Real value: about $300-475 for an original one. Add $150.- for the Gibbers and $100.- for the Bigsby makes $550-725 if you get all the original parts with it. Perhaps you should add $90.- for the case: $640-815 (with the original parts! without them, it's worth about $125.- less: $515-690). I wonder how the Bigsby combines with the ST-II bridge. I have done some experiments with a vibrato too (not on an Ibanez of course), but after a while I decided that it was better to use a roller bridge. And I still don't like these visible anchor bases (stud bushings). If you keep in mind that you can have a Chinese Gretsch for $599-699 this would not be my first Rockabilly option TODAY, but back then this was one of the best options, although I would have chosen an Aria TA65TR. Ginger   Rickd Username: Rickd Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 4:56 pm:    you know EVERYTHING! thanks   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 7:44 pm:    I just learn... everyday a little more... Artstars have my personal interest. (I have an AS120 with a handwritten serial number, I couldn't decipher for years, so I had to investigate to know what I had). Artstar series go back as far as 1987, when a lot of production was moved from Fuji Gen Gakki to several different factories, such as Terada and Yoojin. Just when you THINK you know everything, something new pops up. A little wile ago I found an Artstar model I had never seen before, but I should have. It was there all the time right under my nose in the 1988 price list with a drawing of it. And I had seen that lists hundreds of times, but this model was not jazzy enough to stick in my memory, more like a thinline strat. The pickups were not my favourites either, but I shouldn't have missed it. So, I learn... everyday a little more... Ginger   Rickd Username: Rickd Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 12:16 pm:    hey ginger, i emailed that guy on ebay, to let him know what it was you thought he had, but he hasn't responded nor changed a thing but no one has bid on it yet   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Saturday, August 04, 2007 - 3:20 pm:    It's so obvious: there is no AS200 with DOTS or chrome hardware. Nobody is going to buy that story... There is an original AS80 (with wide headstock by Cort) available for $298.-, which is VERY cheap, I must say... considering the Super 58's on the Cort manufactured ones, it's really better than every Artcore AS under the 103. The ones Samick made NEED waxpotting or new pickups. And if you compare the Cort manufactured AS80 with the AS103, it's a matter of preference: ALNICO against CERAMICS. And of course the AS103 has the better looks. BTW: did you know that TAMA still uses the name ARTSTAR for drums? Ginger   Rickd Username: Rickd Registered: 4-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 10:07 am:    I see the Tamas on Ebay every time I type in 'artstar,' so yes. There was an AS80 on Ebay a couple days ago with a neck repair; i think that might be it. It's curious there's not side view of the neck. I'd ask questions on that one before bidding.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2007 - 1:07 pm:    Didn't that one have a wide headstock? No, I don't think this guitar is really broken. But asking $1500.- for an 1996 AS80, which costed $699.95 back then is bad enough already. http://www.ibanezrules.com/catalogs/price/1996/1_J an/p02.jpg Max. calculated value = 2/3 + mod parts + case. Min. calculated value = 1/2 + mod parts + case - old parts. Some guitar dealers calculate less for certain Korean guitars that are not particularly wanted. For instance Vantage by Samick seems to be boycotted by the same dealers who sold them. This is since the Ibanez-Samick conflict of interests. They are treated if they were inferior guitars. Ibanez guitars that were built in the same factory in the same era, are treated with more respect. (That's why I think $298.- is REALLY CHEAP). $350-466 is fair. You could also take 1/2-2/3 of the last known list price, because these guitars went up $100.- to $799.95 in 1997 and stayed there until at least 2001. So from this starting point, the value is: $400-530 unmodified. Then, you could say, that it has some extra value if it's a Mickey Mouse ears model from the Cort factory, because they were made only one year plus a couple of months. Hard to quantify, but these babies should do 2/3, not 1/2. Ginger   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, August 06, 2007 - 11:49 am:    Ibanez AS80 (by Cort later version with wide headstock) 33 minutes to go... Ebay Item #230157244216 A don't worry guitar, for when you gig in bars. Ginger   Thedude Username: Thedude Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:03 am:    Hey Ginger, anyone notice the neck pickup is installed in a reversed position? Don't see that to often. I agree the stud holes left on a 335 style guitar mars the symetry. I'll have those GFS PUPS installed soon in my AS80 and post the results. I also agree on roller bridges. Makes no sense having strings rub across a stationary bridge causing lots of string breakage and tuning glitches.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 9:12 am:    I think this was necessary, because the Gibson spacing is NOT 5,0 centimetres, but more. Even now it looks too wide in the neck position. I understood Gibson made Burstbuckers for Japanese guitars. Ginger

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