FA510 on ebay

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Author Message   Sabeking Username: Sabeking Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 5:29 pm:    Ebay Item #180168769733 Looks to be a nice guitar... Stacey   Wildfield Username: Wildfield Registered: 5-2005 Posted on Saturday, October 13, 2007 - 11:28 pm:    Nice looking guitar. I wonder how it compares the the Epiphone Elitist or the real McCoy? Wouldn't it be great if Ibanez returned to some of their great copies?   Aroee Username: Aroee Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, October 14, 2007 - 9:14 pm:    If Epiphone had an Elitist like that, I'd buy it today, but their archtops all have routed pickups. That's a totally different animal. That Ibanez is nice, but I'll wait for a blonde FA800 or 2471...   Sabeking Username: Sabeking Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 9:31 am:    This thing is up to $1825. Stacey   Sgjazz Username: Sgjazz Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 9:36 am:    I've been watching that one for a few days now. I'm not buying right now but I'd like to see it hit 2k. I feel like I'm watching a stock price.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2007 - 9:38 pm:    3-1/4" deep... The Gibson Byrdland was 2-1/4" deep and it was not a floating pickup guitar. The FA-510 is more like a Johnny Smith model, which was 3-3/8" (difference 1/8" instead of 1", so closer). It's just that tailpiece, but we saw these on all kinds of guitars from Korea too... So if you're thinking about an Epi equivalent, that would be an Emperor Regent, which looks like this, with its fequensator tailpiece: http://www.peterverspuy.nl/cgi-bin/x/20360.html BTW: this is NOT an Elitist. Ginger   Aroee Username: Aroee Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 5:24 pm:    that's out of control.....   Sabeking Username: Sabeking Registered: 6-2006 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 6:21 pm:    Wow!! Over 3K is unbelievable... Stacey   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 6:36 pm:    Interesting... What does this mean for the 2461 Johnny Smith lawsuit model? And for the 2460 L-5 lawsuit model? (Top price until now $2600.-) Ginger   Sgjazz Username: Sgjazz Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2007 - 7:49 pm:    Holy smokes.... $3045!!!!   Cmangeot Username: Cmangeot Registered: 4-2005 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 8:59 am:    The bad news is, everyone will now think they can get prices in that range for their Ibanez Jazz boxes, the good news is, hopefully, we will see some opportunists try to sell some guitars that they were previously hoarding. Hopefully, we will see some of those FA800's come up on ebay, or even the ICW Chris   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 11:54 am:    the other bad news, the buyer, will prollly have a bard time selling it for same or more than he paid, JMO, JAZZZ   Aroee Username: Aroee Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 12:58 pm:    if you go to the bidding history, you can see bids from user names like 0***8, p***j, a***n etc.. I think those user names look a little shady. Anyone else notice this? I've seen several other auctions with those kind of user names lately. There's very little info on those user names also.... Could it be that this is fraud (to jack the prices up, I mean)?   Aroee Username: Aroee Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 1:07 pm:    okay, I think I understand. "member-specific information is not displayed in the bid history". I just found it really unlikely for the price to go so high. Wonder what a blonde FA800 would go for...?   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 2:14 pm:    Maybe this buyer is a dentist that had one of those in his youth?? nah. jazzzz   Sgjazz Username: Sgjazz Registered: 7-2007 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 4:28 pm:    Aroee... my opinion, FA800 Sunburst 1800-2200 depending on condition, add 300-500 for Blonde. Based on this auction it should 4k.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 7:56 pm:    Aroee, I just analysed the bids on the AS100, which were really fishy. And I see the same kind of trick was played here. That was the reason that jpieksen's bid was triggered 4 times. FOUR times someone tested with a higher bid, if there was a bid above from $3000.- by placing a higher bid, and then retracting that bid, in order to know what shill bid was needed to activate jpieksen's maximum, because that he wanted that guitar was already obvious. I got the impression that several identities are used to place shill bids in early stages and then a final touch by placing a ridiculously high bid and retract it after you saw the highest hidden bid. And then place a bid that is $25.- or $50.- beneath that highest bid that you saw. I'm convinced that these two auctions were NOT fair. And I agree with Sgjazz that 3000+ is NOT a normal and fair price for this guitar. We are being manipulated with the help of the eBay policy that you can place bids and you may retract them, after bids of competitors have been revealed only to you as the highest bidder. (That's how Harry knew he had to bid 3,500 on the 2408 Dragon... he made a typo of 28,000 instead of 2,800... saw a bid of 3,400 and knew what was needed to get it). I actually wanted this method to stay a secret, because Harry accidentally discovered that it worked that way. But now it seems that sellers are using it against us collectors to rip us off. So, my advice: do NOT place hidden bids any more! But wait patiently and hit the button in the last few seconds. Ginger   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Thursday, October 25, 2007 - 7:51 pm:    If this is a 2471, I think it could be even better! Ebay Item #170162257783 I'd like to see the label, but it's not shown in the pics... Ginger   Jim777 Username: Jim777 Registered: 1-2004 Posted on Wednesday, November 14, 2007 - 4:07 pm:    This guitar is still up, and at 3K still. What model is this exactly? I wouldn't mind some company for my FA100 but 3 grand....   Aroee Username: Aroee Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Thursday, November 15, 2007 - 10:29 pm:    that's a model 2471nt and even if it's one of the nicest vintage Ibanez guitars, the price is kind of high... I did email the seller and he was willing to accept $2750.

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