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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 1:13 am:   
Newly bought for $1100. SD 59 in the neck. Anyone tell me how the super 80 would sound? Also, are the '76 2630s rare? thanks
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 1:15 am:   
more pics
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[IMG]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/Ibnose/iba nez2630001.jpg[/IMG]
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Talajuha
Username: Talajuha

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 6:41 am:   
I don't know about the sound but she would look much better with the Super 80 on her.

Juha
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Jim777
Username: Jim777

Registered: 1-2004
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 9:44 am:   
The SD '59 is a nice pickup. Brighter than a Seth Lover. Bartolini PBFs would look and sound great in that as well. Nice guitar!
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Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket

Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 1:18 pm:   
Ibnose,

I just sent you an email. You actually have an intact pick guard!

A tracing and a close up photo would give guard-less 2630 owners (like me) the opportunity to have a replica made.
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Flutterbye
Username: Flutterbye

Registered: 10-2007
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 1:58 pm:   
I second the notion regarding the pickguard.
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 2:08 pm:   
And I would add, when you do the tracing, also trace or otherwise mark out inch and centimeters on the same piece of paper, so we can scale the image properly. And also, front and back tracings (labeled) would help. (And don't forget to mark the screw holes.)

If you do this, you will have no end of praise from ICW!

-Chuck
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 4:27 pm:   
I agree about the super 80. I have the original so if they both sound the same the 80 will go in. It sounds really nice in the neck position of my 2619. Does anyone know why they moved the 3 way switch to the lower bout with the '77 production?
thanks for all the information.
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 8:21 pm:   
just talking with pitchpocket off-site. do you think tracing onto paper ( plus dimensions and hole locations) and then using a scanner for individual requests would help those looking for replacement guards?
also any information/history on the 2630 would be greatly appreciated.
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Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket

Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 9:06 pm:   
Great of you to offer to help out Brock. An intact pick guard is pretty rare for this model. Interesting that yours is intact as most have melted down by now!

What would happen if you scanned the pick guard front and back? Would the scale be exact? Maybe scan it with a ruler along side? Can a photo be scanned into a CAD program in scale for dimensioning?

The guard is bound so a close up photo would be good for the binding detail, but exact size is important for re-construction being true to form.

Any ideas?
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 10:17 pm:   
I am not technical. What I thought would work would be dimensions, holes and then trace top and bottom and scan e-mail to those interested.
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2007 - 10:20 pm:   
sorry-camera is not high end
[IMG]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/Ibnose/iba nez26302001.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa81/Ibnose/iba nez26302009.jpg[/IMG]
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 3:18 am:   
I think tracing will work fine. I'd add in a tracing of a straight line marked with inches and cm, because that will make it real easy to scale a printout.
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Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket

Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 11:36 am:   
Tracing is good by me. I like the idea of the measurement added for scale purposes too. Thanks Brock!
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 1:41 pm:   
if those of you interested want to send me your name and a fax# then you don't have to worry about scale. Will your respective tech's know how high from the body and how far from the bout for the settings?
ps still waiting for info on why the 3way switch got moved, how many made in '76 etc...anyone?
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Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket

Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 7:09 pm:   
I talked to my luthier about making the pick guard. He said if we had a few guys that want one, he can make a template and do a mass production sort of thing and save everyone some money. Anyone interested?
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2007 - 11:05 pm:   
I've pulled the guard off to trace and take measurements for the binding etc and upon close examination it appears to be a modified guard and not the original. Some after-market adjustments have been made to fit the 2630 contours. I will be faxing my drawing and notes to pitchpocket tomorrow. Hope it's all good.
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Guitartim
Username: Guitartim

Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 6:04 pm:   
As yet another 'guardless' '78 2630 owner, I'd sure like to get my hands on one. Just let me know how much one will cost.

Oh, and since it can be duplicated, is there any way to get a slightly yellowed or off-white binding on it vs. bright white?

Thanks in advance!!
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:11 pm:   
Here's a picture for reference:

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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2007 - 10:18 pm:   
And Ibnose's:

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Pitchpocket
Username: Pitchpocket

Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 5:30 pm:   
I started a thread in the Classified section to see about interest in replacement pick guards for the 2630. We're getting close to having the ability to set up a little production line. If you're interested, please reply in the classified section so we can get a head count.
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Makisono
Username: Makisono

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 5:56 pm:   
i have a 2630 from 78 with seymour duncan jazz pickup in the neck position and i find it sounds much better than super 80. better attack and less harsh. warmer tone with more dynamic and still lots of presence
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2007 - 8:08 pm:   
Ibnose,

This is how I did it with a 2355m pickguar:
- unscrew the pickguard screw that's in the top;
- unscrew the bracket;
- take the whole pickguard off;
- put it on a flatbed scanner, laying the bracket part as flat as possible;
- lay a transparent ruler with centimetres/millimetres and inches next to it;
- gently close the lid, but don't press;
- scan the thing as if it were a colour picture, like I did with the Schaller bridge some time ago. My Epson scanner did everything in auto mode and fast.

After this you may need some advice to resize the pic for the ICW forum, but it's always possible to mail it as an attachment (JPEG}.



Ginger
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 3:50 pm:   
So a Seymour Duncan 59 is the same as a SD jazz p/u? It sounds really nice-better than my Tokai es 120. As far as the tracing and faxing all seems to have gone well. The transparent ruler is a really good idea because it eliminates any guess work on scale. Good one Ginger !
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Ibnose
Username: Ibnose

Registered: 11-2006
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 3:55 pm:   
And just to give credit where its due, Chucke99 also recommended putting in markings for scale.
regards
Ibnose
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Wednesday, December 05, 2007 - 12:07 am:   
I've sized a photo of my inbound 2630 with the catalog picture and I'm pretty sure the binding has fallen off my pickguard. While the angles are slightly different, you can see at the top of the photo, where the guard attached near the neck, that the binding would come closer to the binding of the guitar itself. Also, the binding extends a little lower at the bottom, by the bridge pickup, past the pickup ring. What I also just noticed, however, is that the binding is still intact on my pickguard between the two pickups. Cool! That will give me something to work from in replacing the binding.

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-Chuck

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