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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Thursday, November 29, 2007 - 3:57 pm:   
Ebay Item #160184765277
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 4:26 am:   
... beautiful?
this guitar is universally acclaimed as being one of the ugliest models of all time ;)
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Emilio
Username: Emilio

Registered: 9-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 6:10 am:   
looks beautifull to me too....super mint also
cheers
emilio
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Dave_g
Username: Dave_g

Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 8:14 am:   
Petruz...That guitar is stunning !
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Sgjazz
Username: Sgjazz

Registered: 7-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:54 am:   
Petruz... I think the design was inspired by Barney's profile,
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:07 am:   
Barney's profile? If you find it ugly, just don't shave it. There will always be beard lovers. A select group perhaps, but they do exist.

The luthier in my town had a real one (Gibson) about 7 years ago, traded in by some guy. It was sold for hfl. 3500.- which would be EUR 1600.- today, for a Gibson that is.

I don't know what to think of these Maxon pickups. I have a few Maxon Fender humbucker imitations, but I had trouble with them (too high resitance), but that was in a combination with a replaced single coil. Two of the same pickups won't bite each other, I guess.

Btw, now I'm thinking of it: I still have that compensated ebony bridge waiting in the drawer...


Ginger
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Sbg3000
Username: Sbg3000

Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:51 am:   
No question about it folks - It's beautiful in that Mid Century Funky Jetsons way if you're in to that. It's Cool! & The thing's like a time capsule.
And yet... I just can't imagine that it's very comfortable to play.
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Chucke99
Username: Chucke99

Registered: 2-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 11:57 am:   
I love the condition and the shine on the finish. It's not my personal favorite shape, but there's something about a minty old guitar that i just love.
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:47 pm:   
There is a whole universe between

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFbuulDiM_U

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFkdIcRV6wM



Ginger
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 12:57 pm:   
obviously taste is not argueable. i love my PM100 but others say it's ugly and, by the way, that's a double-cutaway archtop.

quoting from www.provide.net/~cfh/gibson.html :

Barney Kessel Regular and Custom Electric Archtops
Available: 1961 to 1974
Collectibility Rating: D- (an ugly model, though those with spruce tops and P.A.F. pickups could be OK).

1961 Barney Kessel Regular specs:
17" wide, full depth body (some with laminated spruce tops), double pointed cutaways, 2 humbucking pickups, tuneomatic bridge, trapeze tailpiece with raised diamond and model name on wooden insert, laminated beveled edge pickguard, triple bound top and back, 25.5" scale, bound rosewood fingerboard with double parallelagram inlays, bound peghead, crown peghead inlay, nickel plated parts, cherry sunburst finish.
1961 Barney Kessel Custom specs:
Same as above but with "bowtie" fingerboard inlays, musical note peghead inlay, gold plated parts.
Both Barney Kessel models discontinued 1974.


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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 1:02 pm:   
the strange thing is that kessel himself didn't favor his gybsson signature model... maybe some aestethic issue?
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 1:26 pm:   
another double-cutaway fetish, the hofner bat (from hofner.com):

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Stbatz
Username: Stbatz

Registered: 4-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:18 pm:   
Petruz,this thing is really uglyˇ
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 2:54 pm:   
which one?
the hofner has the advantage of having a built-in amplifier.
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Stbatz
Username: Stbatz

Registered: 4-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 3:42 pm:   
I dream all my life whit a beauty with amp like thisˇˇ
I will treat to put the twinreverb inside my PM100,(the black one)
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Sbg3000
Username: Sbg3000

Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 7:24 pm:   
Petruz - The Hofner... {Now that's •••••• COOL!
There's got to be a similar Framus out there... right?
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Artfield
Username: Artfield

Registered: 4-2001
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 8:41 pm:   
"the hofner has the advantage of having a built-in amplifier"

and after the gig when the clubowner doesn't pay you can always use it as an AXE to chop his head off....funny looking guitar...every guitar has a purpose...
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Friday, November 30, 2007 - 9:44 pm:   
Compare the Ibanez features with the features of this Conrad. The seller thinks it's a 1960s guitar, and the Maxon pole pieces aren't there (yet?). Zero fret has already disappeared.

Ebay Item #180185180180

Harry and Hasy, what do you think? 1967-'69?
Was Conrad related to Fuji Gen or to Hoshino?


Ginger
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2007 - 8:28 am:   
pat, this one would be much better to solve that problem:
www.fetishguitars.com/html/wandre/bikini/index.htm l

sbg3000, check the above site if you like oddities... it's plenty of '50s crazy guitar designs (highly creative, btw).
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Sbg3000
Username: Sbg3000

Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Monday, December 03, 2007 - 9:44 pm:   
LOVE this site Petruz and especially LOVE Wandre Guitars! They're just so Italian Mid Century Artist cool.

Could have something to do with my fetish for Buddy Miller's playing - Not at all like most Ibanez player hero's of mine Petrucci, Vai, Satch, Etc..., but a TONE MONSTER just the same.

And this shot with Sen. Lehey cracks me up:
Lehey

Mark
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Petruz
Username: Petruz

Registered: 5-2004
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 4:29 am:   
wandre was surely one the most freakin' creative guitar designers, and used new materials, like alluminium for the necks, surely ahead of his time. do you have a link to buddy miller?
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Sbg3000
Username: Sbg3000

Registered: 11-2007
Posted on Tuesday, December 04, 2007 - 9:47 am:   
Here are a couple of links.

http://www.buddyandjulie.com/index.html
www.newwestrecords.com/buddymiller.php

His last album was on NEW West but there are many earlier albums you can find through the Buddy and Julie site and some very notable work with Emmylou Harris - Especially check out the live Spyboy album, a tour with Buddy Miller as her side man resulting from the Daniel Lanois produced album "Wrecking Ball".

If you don't know this guy's playing you might find it interesting - just be prepared to wade through the more traditional Country / Americana stuff to find the guitar jam jems of a Rockabilly / Early Rock & Roll / Rolling Stones ... It's hard to categorize... kind of style.

The Wandre guitars shown through an old Vox Amp. It's Killer!
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Jonnie73
Username: Jonnie73

Registered: 9-2006
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 3:22 am:   
interesting outcomes of the 2 Barney Kessel models maybe!
Although the reserve wasn't met on the gibson the bids weren't a million miles away from each other at the close, $2114.80 compared with $2026.66 for the Ibanez. although 7 bids to reach this on the gibson as opposed to 47 for the 2356. There are of course a few factors that would effect interest, like the gibson is a UK only auction which must cut down the audience somewhat. I wonder how many of each were made as this would effect desirability as well.
Ebay Item #170174511386
Ebay Item #160184765277
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2007 - 9:36 am:   
Oh uh, guys...

The Barney was sold for EUR 1,384.00 (approximately US $2,029.50).
Not bad for the "ugliest guitar ever made".


Ginger

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