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Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 8:33 am: | |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33043&item=7318525618&rd= 1 |
Johns
Username: Johns
Registered: 02-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 12:23 pm: | |
According to the '81 US catalog, the AS50 should have V2 uncovered creme pups, laminated maple body and 3 piece birch neck with 2354 TV knobs (not Sure Grips). And it should only be available in Antique Violin finish.
This one definitely doesn't match up with the catalog because of it's Cherry finish (which is correct for an '81 AS100). I can't tell if that's a maple body or not. I would have guessed birch from the grain pattern.
Does anyone have the specs from the '82 catalog for an AS50? |
Acetan
Username: Acetan
Registered: 09-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 04, 2005 - 4:19 pm: | |
Hi John,
I think this is an AS50 but it has non-original knobs and judging from the pickup surrounds, non-original pickups also. Cherry is available for 81 AS50's. Mine is I814692, it does have V2's and 2354s. The best way to tell is from the shape of the pick-guard which are quite different from those on the AS100s.
Ace |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 5:15 am: | |
Some decay on the binding he says. More like falling off. I think this plank was listed a couple of weeks ago for about $1000 AU.
http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7387094998
six |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 8:00 am: | |
Six..I cant believe that this seller has chosen not to discuss the obvious binding issues. This guitar has spent its life in a hot stuffy case and the binding is totally shot. I'd offer the guy $100 for the parts (it would cost ya at least $200-$250 or more to re-bind and refinish this beast and -quite frankly its only an AS100 and probably not worth the effort... |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 8:26 am: | |
Just curious: 'its only an AS100 and probably not worth the effort...'. If it was in excellent condition, how would you feel about the guitar, meaning, do you think not too highly of the AS100? How would you rate the AS100 vs the AS50 & AS200?
mk |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 1:17 pm: | |
Michael, I'm not 'dissin the AS100, but for my money I would not go thru the hassle to fix the binding on that guitar unless the purchase price reflected the condition of the binding-with the auction price approaching $500 US, its already past the point of making sense... |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 2:38 pm: | |
ok....how much would you pay for a nice AS100? |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 3:37 pm: | |
Mike, Mint condition $500-$600, no more than $600. Dont get me wrong these are great guitars, but the lack of ornamentation (dots and no flame) is what kills the resale of Vintage Ibanez guitars...buyers really want inlays, flame finishes, better woods etc... |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 3:44 pm: | |
Yea, Yea I know someone bid over $800 for one from "redneckcarter"-absurd, just absurd. You can get a 2630 for around a grand (plus or minus) that is full sized, bookmatched flame maple top, Super 80's, ebony fretboard with pearl/abalone/pearl block inlays and gold hardware & tri-sound/coil tap switch. Both of these guitars are very nice, but the AS100 is still a mid level guitar-why would anyone pay so much for it-it didn't even look like a minty one-you just never know how these things make sense |
Michaelkaufman
Username: Michaelkaufman
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 4:34 pm: | |
I guess you're right.
I think players have a different view than collectors. Personally, as a player, I'd rather pay more for a plain (ie: dots vs. blocks, chrome vs gold, etc) really good playing guitar than pay more for a good looking guitar that doesn't play as nice. Not to say that the 2630 isn't a good player...
Something else I don't understand: the 2681 is a beautiful guitar, however, as a player, the 2680 is the same guitar at a fraction of the cost. Given the prices of 2681's, I'd rather buy a 2680, AM-50, AM-300 and 2622 and still have money left over for strings & beer! In fact, that's exactly what I've done.
mk |
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix
Registered: 03-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | |
I like the AS100 because it's plain and simple and a bit lighter so it appeals to me as a guitar I would gig. The 2630 I had was a little too heavy and bright but now I have a 2629 that is lighter and to my ears, nicer sounding too.
I think you are both right on the points you've put forward but guitar buying in general is subjective and we all have a preference.
Back to this AS100. I like the cherry on this AS100 but Dave is right that it's too much work. If it was an AS200 at the same price I'd buy at $600 AU as it would be worth doing at that price.
As it is, I don't think it's worth $400 AU or in my old money, 200 quid.
six |
Snowjays
Username: Snowjays
Registered: 09-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 6:52 pm: | |
I think in this case you do have to take location into consideration. Cairns is in one of the hottest areas of the country. Winter is a shorts and t-shirt occassion.
Also, there is not a lot of theese about in rural areas like there is in the big smoke.
Still not worth muc more than about $600-$700 aud. |
Dave_g
Username: Dave_g
Registered: 01-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 7:46 pm: | |
Michael, I am an avid player as well as a collector. I play in a 70's rock band as well as a weekly stint with the "over the hill gang" and I regularly give my Ibanez beauties a good workout and also share my guitars with a group of around thirty students.
One of the best things about the Ibanez brand is that they produce a range of guitars-there is a guitar for every player, collector and buget. Fortunately all of the Vintage Ibanez are very well made guitars. Some are a little more ornate and are constructed of a better grade material, but they all sound good. My favorite Ibanez guitar to this day is a banged up, beatup, well played Deluxe 59'er which I think was made out of spare parts-but it plays like butter ! |
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