ARTIST 2630 SOLD , fleabay

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Author Message   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 7:21 pm:    1977 artist 2630 just sold for $1600 (make offer), so , i think you can see these are starting to appreciate , one sold to a member here a few weeks ago for around $1200, would be interesting to get his comments, cheers, jazz   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:02 pm:    $1600....Amazing six   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:15 pm:    Well, my comment is, "Where is my guitar?" I am getting quite alarmed. I bought and paid for it two weeks ago and I still don't have it. The seller, who goes by by the Ebay identity, "Eyebonez," has not been in touch with me since well over a week ago, when he apologized for the delay and promised immediate shipping. He is in nearby New Jersey. I am in Connecticut. Transit time should be only a couple of days. Immediately after I paid for it, he sent me this message: "The extra parts are already in the case compartment. I will pack it up tonight and ship tomorrow. Well packed I assure you. Thank you for the fast payment, Best regards, Mike Graves" Again, that was 3/13, two weeks ago. The next message came 3/17: "Chris, Happy St. Patty's Day! I had the guitar packed and ready on Wednesday night.I went to go to ship it when I got out of work on Thursday,but with bad weather and rush hour traffic,I was too late. Friday I could not even get out of my own street due to the storm and no plows came down my little street until nightfall.(rear wheel drive S-10 P/U) I am very sorry for the delay and will make it happen on Monday by having them come to me instead and pay the extra $5.00 or whatever it will cost me. I will send the tracking number afterward." I understand about the weather --I was delayed in shipping some stuff I sold on Harmony-Central and Astromart -- but I sold my stuff late in that week, and I made damn sure that stuff went out first thing the following Monday morning, writing profusely to keep my buyers informed and comfortable. They got my shipments last week, even though our deals started nearly one business week later than this one, and they were half a continent away. Anyway, that 3/17 message was the last thing I heard from "Eyebonez," and that was over a week ago. Since then, I've gotten no tracking number, no responses to my inquries, no messages ... most distressing! It's 8 p.m. Monday, 3/26. Not a word. It's getting to the point that I won't be able to say, "I am sure there is a reasonable explanation."   Tristan Username: Tristan Registered: 3-2005 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:28 pm:    I wonder about his feedback, how is it, how recent and what type of items as it can tell alot about a seller. Also, the inquiry you received from ebay after you placed the winning bid has his address. What type of address is it? Does he currently offer other items for sale? I mean, is he showing any sign of activity on ebay? I really hope it's not the worse. Did you use PayPal?   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 8:39 pm:    Wouldn't you know: I just checked my email and there was a message from the seller! Sounds like a good guy -- and he is most apologetic. Seems he has had quite an ordeal trying to ship, a real FUBAR scenario. Having myself had a few such comedy-of-errors situations, I believe him. Anyway, I expect to have the guitar soon. He said he'd refund the shipping, too, by way of apology. So, I am feeling much better and a bit sorry for the guy and for the post above. Can I edit that out? He has a good rating with lots of deals, by the way, Tristan. And yes, I DID use PayPal.   Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:13 pm:    Eyebonez is a looooong time ICW member, I don't think you need to worry. Ace   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:40 pm:    Cdarwincole: I've known Eyebonez (AKA ManiacMike) for a while. I've met him in person several times and done two deals with him. I would absolutely give him the benefit of the doubt. AAMOF, his was the first 2630 that I ever touched. Maybe it's the very one that you bought?   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, March 26, 2007 - 9:56 pm:    Cdarwincole, Manic Mike (Eyebonez) is a stand up guy, you have absolutely zero worries with this deal. We have not heard from Mike in a while (he was a regular poster with an incredible collection)but he is a very trustworthy dude. I have purchased several very tasty Vintage Ibanez items from him..   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, March 27, 2007 - 4:14 am:    Same here. Mike comes across as a decent bloke either here on the site or private chats via email. I shouldn'tworry yourself. Hey Mike. Where have you been? six   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 9:02 am:    Still no guitar and no messages from Mike since Monday, 3/26. Getting worried again. Can't help it. Chris   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, April 04, 2007 - 2:03 pm:    Can or will anyone here tell me how to get in touch with ManiacMike (aka Ebay I.D. "eyebonez") other than email? It will soon be a month since I paid for my 2630. I have heard nothing from him since over a week ago, when he apologized profusely for the long delay and promised immediate shipment. I have sent him a bunch of messages, but he has not responded. Help!   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 11:06 am:    For the record: Maybe two weeks ago, I got another message from Mike Graves (aka "Eyebonez" profusely apologizing, once again, and promising that I would have my 2630 by Wednesday, April 11. Well, here it is, a week and a day later and guess what. Still no guitar. No new messages. No nuttin'. Meanwhile, I have bought and sold stuff based partly on the implications of this purchase. I am a very sad lad.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 8:44 pm:    cdarwincole....You try his address ?   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2007 - 9:31 pm:    Hi, Dave: Yes, I did try his address. Thank you. I could not find a phone number, though. His is unlisted. He did contact me again, as I mentioned. Twice he promised to add stuff to the purchase by way of apology. First it was free shipping. Next a the Ibanez catalog in which the guitar appeared. But he never shipped anything at all. So, I am feeling very much like I have been strung along with distracting fantasies. I hate to think that it was deliberate, but I don't know what else to think. I need to escalate my PayPal complaint by Sunday or I will never be able to get my money back. I am pretty upset about this, so I'd better stop writing now before I say something I will regret. Thanks for trying to help me out, Dave. I really do appreciate it. Chris   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 12:00 am:    Mike is a good guy, but he also understands how things work....My suggestion is if you havn't recieved it by now, do NOT hesitate to escalate the claim IMMEDIATELY, and file an additonal one with EBay...Paypal is very unforgiving...miss the deadline by 1 minute and they will not be able to help you and you have to file with Paypal first before EBay will do anything. If the funds were from a Credit card via Paypal, file a claim with the CC company also, many times they can get your money back when PP cannot. Unfortunately if this is a scammer using Mikes account, the final result may be difficult. When things work out and you recieve your guitar, you can always drop the claim-and I'm sure Mike would understand. Hoping everything works out for the best   Gpii Username: Gpii Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:20 am:    Cdarwincole, I must state, I don't know this person, don't know you, don't know if someone hijacked his I.D. or if this is fake. With that being said, here is my 2 cents: Here is what you should have done, and should do NOW. 10 days after seller receives payment is plenty of time for him/her to respond & ship said item. There isn't any excuse or reason on this face of the Earth for it not to ship within 10 days, short of the seller dying or ending up in the hospital in an emergency, going to jail - weather included. The U.S. being attacked in several areas (WAR) would be the only other "excuse" acceptable. On the 10th day, email and call seller with question(s) as to why the item has not been sent. If seller claimes he has, ask for a tracking number. If there are more excuses, let him know you will be disputing this with Ebay, PayPal, and your credit card company, if that is what you used. You need to do something NOW. You have to not worry about feelings being hurt, he has an obligation to fulfill, this is business. If he claims personal troubles, TOO BAD, that is no excuse. You have paid him promptly, without excuse, he should reply in kind. I would pay to have his background investigated to see where he lives, where he works and if this person even sold the guitar. It could be his I.D. & other information was stolen. what is the Ebay auction #? ****DO SOMETHING NOW, DON'T DELAY****   Gpii Username: Gpii Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 5:41 am:    Ebay Item #180094008288 Finding the link sure is hard, after 30 days, Ebay doesn't let you look it up, I love the archiving feature that a some sites offer. You might be covered up to $2000 according to PayPal: 13. Disputes between Buyers and Sellers - Buyer Protection Programs. 13.1 Buyer Protection Programs. If you buy an item using PayPal and either do not receive the item or receive an item that you believe is Significantly Not as Described by the seller, we encourage you to open a Dispute with the seller in our Resolution Center. By doing so, you will initiate our Online Dispute Resolution Process—a step-by-step system designed to facilitate communication between you and the seller in order to get resolution of the issue. If your dialogue with the seller fails to produce a satisfactory result, you can then escalate the Dispute into a Claim that we will evaluate for reimbursement under one of the following programs: PayPal Buyer Complaint Policy - Our best efforts program to reimburse Users for losses only to the extent we are able to recover the funds from sellers. PayPal Buyer Protection Policy - Our program to reimburse Users for losses for up to (i) $2,000.00 USD (Top Tier Converage Amount) for eligible items purchased on eBay and (ii) up to $200.00 USD (Basic Tier Coverage Amount) for all other eligible items purchased on eBay. Please see section 13.9 to determine whether Top Tier Coverage Amount or Basic Tier Coverage Amount applies. Buyer Protection for eBay Express - Our program to reimburse Users for the full amount of losses for items purchased on eBay Express. Extended Buyer Protection with PayPal Credit - Our program to reimburse Users for the full amount of losses for items purchased using the PayPal Plus Credit Card or PayPal Buyer Credit. These programs only cover payments for tangible, physical goods. All other payments, such as payments for intangibles, services, airline flight tickets, or licenses and other access to digital content are not covered by any Buyer Protection Program that we offer (but may be covered by Chargeback rights). 13.2 Assumption of Rights. If PayPal pays out a Claim, Reversal or Chargeback that you file against a recipient of your payment, you agree that PayPal assumes your rights against the recipient and third parties related to the payment, and may pursue those rights directly or on your behalf, in PayPal’s discretion. 13.3 Filing Deadlines. We will not grant any Claim unless you first initiate a Dispute in our Resolution Center within 45 Days of the date of the relevant payment and then escalate the Dispute into a Claim within 20 Days of the date you file your Dispute. It is your responsibility to keep track of the deadlines under this section. 13.4 Online Dispute Process. Once you file a Dispute as a buyer, PayPal will notify the seller of the Dispute, and while the Dispute is open, you and the seller are able to access the details of the Dispute via the Resolution Center and post messages to each other in connection with the Dispute. Any message you post is viewable by PayPal and the other party to the Dispute. If the Dispute is escalated to a Claim, PayPal may review and use the content of all posted messages during evaluation of the Claim. If you subsequently file a Chargeback, PayPal may use the content of any messages to dispute the Chargeback. You may not post any message that is offensive, discourteous, false, misleading, profane, abusive, threatening or otherwise inappropriate. You are probably already aware of these procedures, but just in case, I reprinted a partial of the requirement for the reclaimation procedure. Again, you cannot be worried about offending the seller, he is aware or should be aware of the procedures & policies regarding Ebay auctions. Remember, you paid him promptly, if he didn't receive the money, he should have notified you immediately. He did not indicate this as a problem from what you have elaborated. Tell him: "NO MORE EXCUSES".   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Friday, April 20, 2007 - 4:05 pm:    Thanks for all the advice. I was afraid that I could recover only up to $1000. I am pretty sure I have been dealing with the real Mike Graves. His PayPal address was verified, and he seemed to know too much about vintage Ibanez guitars to be an interloper, and the few messages that I got from him, spread out as they were, had a consistent tone of guilt and anxiety that seemed genuine, very unlike that of scammers who have tried their vile craft on me in the past. Anyway, whatever excuses he might have, they are -- at this juncture -- not good enough. I will do my best to warn other potential buyers about him on every site that I can. Thanks again. Chris   Cdarwincole Username: Cdarwincole Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 10:25 am:    I just got a message from PayPal saying that they had concluded their investigation, found in my favor, and will be refunding my money. What sucks is that (1) I have lost two months of interest/investment oportunity (2) I have made other buying and selling decisions based upon this purchase, (3) and I lost a lot of time and hair follicles over this, neither of which I have in any great abundance. Michael Graves, you are a liar and a cheat, and you should be shunned by anyone who reads this post!   Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 9-2005 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 11:29 am:    Cdar, sorry to hear about the nitemare, maybe the Ibanez gods will be looking out for you, ya never know, there may be a special axe waiting for you, cheers, jazzz   Callistabb Username: Callistabb Registered: 2-2006 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:13 pm:    Cdar, I’m also very sorry that this did not end happily. I have been following your story and was so hoping for a good explanation from the seller and that the guitar would arrive in perfect shape at the end. We all know that there’s a risk involved with buying guitars over the Internet, personally I have been very lucky so far, but, as this story tells, you never know when you run out of luck. Really sorry, and shame on whoever is behind this! /Bjorn   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 3:56 pm:    Until I hear from Mike, I will assume that his account was hijacked.   Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 8:56 pm:    Cedar...drop me a email, I have a suggestion for ya   Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 3:52 pm:    I'm sad and worried.

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