I'm totally stumped by this "AM100"...

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Author Message Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:22 pm:    http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D735362049 Before I list my observations, a little quiz: who can tell me what's odd about this guitar? Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 6:27 pm:    Sorry, try this: http://www.qksrv.net/click-1802666-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI .dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D7353620491 Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 7:09 pm:    1990? Burled? Wrong model & wrong year? Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 7:28 pm:    did you guys noticed that the brigde is a Schallerstyle and not a Gibraltar also the spacing between the bridge and the tail piece isn't Ibanez style, so it must be a mod..also have a look at the backside of the neck... i never saw Ibanez spray 2 colours like that.. it could be an orginal AM100 completely redone (but the question is how they got this "Burl" thing..on an AM100 a spray job on the top would get very dark because of the mahagony and the orginal black/grey finish . what i think it is : AM66 sprayed and a bridge replacement, the reason i think is that when you spray an "amber' AM66 with this sunburst tan, the definition of the wood will be more visible... it also could be a Am70 modded also checked out Sven's site and saw no 1990's AM100 models displayed. i could be wrong..... Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 9:41 pm:    ...but AM100's are supposed to have maple tops. The head stock shape is consistant with 1990 production. My stock AM300 has the same bridge and similar bridge/tail-piece spacing (see picture) so I don't think it was modified. Strange guitar. Should we call it AM105? Ace Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Monday, September 26, 2005 - 9:52 pm:    I asked the seller about this guitar and this is the reply I got: In a message dated 9/26/2005 9:30:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, member@ebay.com writes: Hi, Does the guitar have the original factory finish? ...and where was it made? ...Japan or Korea? Thank you. Yes the finish is 100% original this is the japanese model thanks so much for your interest Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:13 am:    I asked the seller a few questions, and here's what he said: Can you tell me if this guitar says AM100 on the label inside the f-hole? YES IT DOES Is the fingerboard rosewood or ebony?ROSEWOOD What are the 1st 3 characters of the SN? H90 Can you confirm that the hardware is chrome? HARWARE IS CHROME These are my observations: The body looks just like an AM200 or AM205 with walnut burl veneer. But it has chrome hardware, dot inlays, a rosewood fretboard, plan headstock, all characteristics of a maple AM model. And to top it all off, it says AM100 in 2 places (on the trus rod cover and on the label) My first thought was this is a refinished AM100. But they did not make AM100s in '90. So then I figured it must me some strange one off prototype or lab experament. But then why would they slap an AM100 label on such a guitar? Then I remembered an email (which I cannot find) from someone in europe who has an AM100 in a cherryburst finish. Then I remembered seeing a few other burst AM100s, but never with a figured top. There were quite a few AM models in europe that don't jive with the catalogs: the AM80, the AM60/66/67 range. So this is my best guess: this is some kind of Europe only AM100 which was offered in 1990 with a burled (or quilted) top -Sven Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:16 am:    Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:54 am:    I've asked for side pictures to confirm if it's thin and rounded. It's doesn't look it to me. More like a 200/205. Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:28 am:    Mike, You mean like an AM400? You can tell it's not rounded on the back if you look at the last picture - there would be no binding on the back edge if it were rounded. Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 11:37 am:    Yup...it's a wierd one. Does anyone know of any other AM-100's made that late? mk Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 12:06 pm:    I Think one of us had better just buy this one in the name of science Mr_roadstar Username: Mr_roadstar Registered: 06-2002 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 1:23 pm:    I'm betting it's a Japanese domestic model. Hoshino keeps the coolest stuff for the home market. Steve Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:11 pm:    maybe its a moded AM50 ? i'm still curious about the brigde...could we get a close pic...its not a gibraltar style... what kind of machineheads are on it ? could be Korea made , reminds of this post: http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/16/3662.html?1027612618 Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:21 pm:    i'm 100% sure thats not an AM100 with these models and also the AM205 series the position on the stoptail and the upper volume poti is almost i one line also the distance is very small between them... on Sven's Am site there is a pic of a sunburst AM50 which almost looks the same... Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:28 pm:    Artfield, To restate what has already been stated I think the modded AM50 idea is unlikely, because it says AM100 in 2 places on the guitar, and they didn't make AM50s in 1990. The bridge is likely a FullTune, which is just a cheap and common TunoMatic, which Ibanez put on some of their lower end guitars, including the AM300 - look at Ace's picture. Based on the SN, and the sellers comments, it's Japanese. -Sven Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 9:38 pm:    Artfield, it definitely isn't the US market AM100 that appears in '83 catalog. But based on the '90 production date, it could very well be a different take on the AM100 released in select markets. Thas has been the case in other instances. I'm almost certain that wood is burl mahogany, It's not quilted maple as you can see: http://www.edromanguitars.com/wood/quilt.htm Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Tuesday, September 27, 2005 - 10:27 pm:    Hi Sven, I think I'll take your advice and take a crack at it. May be we'll get the answers we seek if one of us here gets it. Ace Artfield Username: Artfield Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 10:17 am:    thanks guys for the info than the Mistery continues hope one of us buys this guitar... what about JohnM ??? .. Sven that's a very nice link...wow nice colours... i like these Jaros Models... Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Wednesday, September 28, 2005 - 10:37 am:    Good luck Ace. I won't be sniping this one. Artfield, Wow, those Jaros do look really nice. Soulchaser Username: Soulchaser Registered: 06-2005 Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2005 - 2:31 pm:    Could it be that this guitar was destined to be an AM200 at the factory (sure looks like a 200 top to me) and the guitar was then rejected for some flaw. Then sprayed and made into an AM100, perhaps to fill a back order? The headstock looks to me not to be dusty, but looks like that funky AM100 colour. Lots of people refinish guitars and maybe this was a lucky find by the refinisher. Michaelkaufman Username: Michaelkaufman Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2005 - 7:34 pm:    Someone finally placed a bid. Anyone here? Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 11:18 pm:    $670 with 12 hours to go, too much for me. I'm out. Ace

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