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Artfield
Username: Artfield
Registered: 04-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 8:18 pm: | |
FYI saw this on dutch website:
http://koopjes.marktplaats.nl/muziek_en_instrumenten/snaarinstr_gitaren_elektris ch/24896036.html
AM Models Japan made go really up.....
i have an AM66 for sale for those who are on a budget but looking for a very fine instrument, and its much cheaper too...
http://homepage.mac.com/patricio5/PhotoAlbum6.html |
Tone
Username: Tone
Registered: 02-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, March 05, 2006 - 10:46 pm: | |
That's a bit ridiculous price...
How much are you selling the AM66 for Artfield?
That's a beautiful guitar... how does it sound? |
Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 12:03 am: | |
The AM205AV is selling for Aud$2835 at today's exchange rate. Yes, a bit overpriced, I think. Pity, it's such a lovely looking instrument. |
Artfield
Username: Artfield
Registered: 04-2001
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 7:49 am: | |
Tone i'm asking 750 euros for the guitar.
Sound is excellent, warm, dynamic ,clear and even in the distortion mode very good.
Compared to my Blue AM205 and my orginal AM205SE it can easy compete with them soundwise and playwise.
Three AM's is just too much and the house is getting full so one has to go. |
Artington
Username: Artington
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 2:04 pm: | |
Hadnt appreciated there was a blue AM205. Would love to see pix |
Markownly
Username: Markownly
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:15 pm: | |
I need a little help here,, ,or maybe i'm just REALLY confused,,, 1,750.00 AUD dollars converts to 1,290.00 in USD. Now,, if this was a dutch site,,, where are we getting the AUD from? Are those not Australia dollars??? Thanks for any info on this. If this beauty is 1,290.00 in USD,, then let me get my check book!!!! Mark |
Fg100
Username: Fg100
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:25 pm: | |
NO NO... It's 1750 Euros, not AUD. |
Markownly
Username: Markownly
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2006 - 6:35 pm: | |
Ahhhh, ok, gotcha! Thanks FG. This is what threw me---> "The AM205AV is selling for Aud$2835 at today's exchange rate". |
Bluesmeister
Username: Bluesmeister
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 12:01 am: | |
Markownly, 1750 Euros = Aud$2835 on that particular day's exchange rate. I live in Australia, so Euros mean nothing to me, I converted Euros to Australian Dollars for the benefit of myself and the other Austalians here on ICW.
1750 Euros = US$2092.09 - that's expensive no matter how you say it. |
Petruz
Username: Petruz
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 5:57 am: | |
1750 euros is a complete out of market price for this model, even now that people seem to have "awaked" about the ibanez vintage. the guy can ask what he wants, but that doesn't mean that others will pay... well, at least i hope not because that's an absurd speculation.
usually in europe AM205s sell for 900/1000 euros, and i have seen a couple in the last year go for 150/200 less. |
Markownly
Username: Markownly
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 6:36 am: | |
Thank you Bluesmeister. I agree, it is expensive. |
Fg100
Username: Fg100
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 2:51 pm: | |
That's for sure too much! Hope people will wait to see it coming down... actually, I have seen this happening... some over priced instruments that are being offered for months (some almost a year)keep coming down (the price). |
Markownly
Username: Markownly
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 7:02 pm: | |
Need a little direction, and i'll give thanks in advance for it.....I'm looking for any information on an AM-100. Other than Svens' site, which is loaded with info, is there any other sites that might help me. The reason i'm asking is, i have an opportunity to pick up a AM-100 in pristine condition, for what I believe to be a fair price. It's not what I 'truly" want; as i'm searching for either a AM-200, or 205, but given the price i was quoted for this AM-100..now i'm thinking..."Hmmmmmmmmm". Any insight would be much apprecieated. Thank You! |
Wildfield
Username: Wildfield
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:49 pm: | |
Markownly,
Can't answer your question(s) but I recently saw an AM200 on GBase. Not sure if it is still available, but maybe you could contact the seller and learn more about it's condition and features, if that is the guitar you were originally looking for.
http://www.gbase.com/Stores/Gear/GearDetails.aspx?Item=857702
Good luck in your search.
Darryl |
Funkle
Username: Funkle
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 8:50 pm: | |
Mark, as far as I know, the AM100 is identical to the AM50, only with a black finish and pickguard. Apperantly, a European version of the AM100 came in AV - I know little about these guitars, other than they look identical to the AM50.
So FWIW, I'd say you'll pretty much get an AM50, only with a much lower resale value 
Have you checked all the catalogs at ibanezrules.com? |
Markownly
Username: Markownly
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 9:19 pm: | |
Thank you Wildfield, and Funkle! Some great direction and advice. I've not checked at ibanezrules yet; but next to this forum,, that sounds like a great place to start. Thanks again guys! |
Tg4080
Username: Tg4080
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:14 pm: | |
I find it interesting that certain members of this forum downplay the AM-100s. I searched for a year to find one and I think they are probably one of the hardest to come by and it would not surprise me if they are as rare as the am205. Also, where do you get your basis on saying that they are currently selling for less than the am50? The last one that sold on ebay and the only one I saw on there sold for more than the last 5 AM50s. Also, www.harmony-central.com gives reviews on both models and the price paid for the am100s is higher then the am50s? A message thread from 2 years ago shows that a few am100s sold for less than the am50s but this is significantly outdated.
I will attest to not typically being drawn to black guitars. However, this guitar has a unique black sparkle finish that I actually liked and I have had nothing but compliments on the looks of my am100.
Within the past 2 years I have seen the Ibanez market change substantially and the price of AM's seem to indicate that they will be significant collectable investments. If you are looking for an AM-100 they are much harder to find than most of the other models- this coming from someone who has looked. |
Gramatica
Username: Gramatica
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 10:42 pm: | |
But you are selling yours... ? As am I, dig a little further back in the classifieds! Your's is in much better shape than mine. I am keen to see how much you get for yours!
Here! |
Funkle
Username: Funkle
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2006 - 11:57 pm: | |
"I find it interesting that certain members of this forum downplay the AM-100s."
Not sure if that was aimed at me, but I don't "downplay" the AM100. In fact I think it's odd that they have historically been so under valued compared to the AM50. I've always been a fan of the "underdog" models - they can be great bargains, if not good investments
"I think they are probably one of the hardest to come by and it would not surprise me if they are as rare as the am205."
I'd say they are a whole lot rarer than the AM205.
"where do you get your basis on saying that they are currently selling for less than the am50? The last one that sold on ebay and the only one I saw on there sold for more than the last 5 AM50s."
That may be the case. It is a fickle market, and it's hard to put an accurate value on the rare models - if a model only comes up once in a blue moon, it's worth whatever someone's willing to pay for it. I guess I missed the AM100 you're talking about, but over the last 4 years I've been watching the AMs, the AM50s have consistently generated much more competition and higher prices. If one AM100 went for a higher price, that means absolutely nothing. Why don't you give us the AM100 selling prices you've observed in order to back up what you're saying.
"Also, www.harmony-central.com gives reviews on both models and the price paid for the am100s is higher then the am50s?"
The prices quoted at H-C should be taken with a grain of salt. They are isolated cases, which are not indicative of what I've seen in the marketplace. AM50s have consistently been selling for $600-700 over the last year. The last AM100s I can remember went for around $400. |
Tg4080
Username: Tg4080
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 8:17 am: | |
Honestly I see you have been a member to this site for a while so I am sure that you have seen many guitars exchange hands. However, I think that the guitar you saw sell for 400 is not indicative of the marketplace. Whoever sold it for 400 gave it away, and I wish I had that opportunity to buy it. When I bought mine the guy wouldnt budge in price. In fact if anyone wants to sell an am100 for 400, i will buy it.
I understand that the reviews may not indicate what someone could get a guitar for. In the AM205 section there are guys that paid 250 etc for their guitar. But the three reviewers paid 725, 800, 800 for the am100 and I could second that I paid around that for mine-although mine barely even has a scratch on the pickups let alone the case or anything else. I could also say that I have had several emails about my guitar that I listed for sale about a week ago and the lowest I have been offered is 600 and the weirdest offer is a 2 month old jc120 which sells for 895 at the local store.
The bottom line is that the Artist hollowbody guitars are unfortunately increasing pretty rapidly in price. Look at the black AM for 1200+ that Kauffman just pointed out.
I just don't think it is fair to say that one AM is less desirable than another because I think that in many respects the outspoken on this site seem to have considerable control on which guitars are worth what. Honestly does it make sense that the rarest AM typically goes for 400 outside this site, in the general marketplace?--probably a few years ago but it is not the case anymore. There was probably some issues with that guitar or somebody was selling their divorced husbands guitar. |
Joevocht
Username: Joevocht
Registered: 08-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 10:11 am: | |
TG has a point...actually all the Ibanez hollowbodies are priceless...they are works of art, patience, and good common sense. I have an AF75 (China) and a AS120 (Korea) and I'm thrilled and satisfied re the workmanship and playability of these fine instruments that will eventually go down in History as some of the best 'bangs for the buck' ever!! |
Funkle
Username: Funkle
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 12:36 pm: | |
Tg, I think your misreading what I said. I would never say that the AM100 was somehow less of a guitar, just historically less sought after.
And I am not trying to deny what you are saying about a recent climb in value. I am totally open to the idea that this may be changing, bring it on! but I won't believe this until I see a few recent selling prices. Prove me wrong, please!
In Russel's survey from Dec '04, he cites:
24 AM50s which sold for an average of $578
4 AM100s which sold for an average of $482
15 AM205s which sold for an average of $970
I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just looking for facts to back up what you are saying. I'd be delighted to hear that this guitar is getting the attention it deserves.
-Sven |
Gramatica
Username: Gramatica
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 1:04 pm: | |
I was just looking at the catalog to see what the difference is between the AM50 and AM100... finish! All this time I thought the AM100 was, I don't know, twice as good as the AM50! Oh well.
On the left Brown Sunburst, on the right Metallic Black!
 |
Funkle
Username: Funkle
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 1:34 pm: | |
"I was just looking at the catalog to see what the difference is between the AM50 and AM100... finish!"
...And a pickguard |
Gramatica
Username: Gramatica
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 1:51 pm: | |
Now that is worth the extra money... 
I took mine off as soon as I got it home! |
Tg4080
Username: Tg4080
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2006 - 3:29 pm: | |
Right on sven,
I'm not trying to attack you in any way, I'm just saying that including the price I paid for mine and the 3 other prices listed in Harmony Central, the two different sources show extremely different results (average of 4 at 760 L=725 H=800 vs. average of around 450 or whatever). I would say that a major reason for this is that there just aren't enough published prices paid because of the rarity. I can tell you that I have two AM100's and I like the appearance of the guitar coupled with the sound they produce. I think that as a blues musician it is the ultimate stage guitar as the finish keeps the guitarist looking refreshingly modest, while also having eye appeal over the typicall semi-hollow or a guitar like the lucille because of sparkle when light hits it(before I followed vintage Ibanez guitars I saw a guy playing an AM100 and that is how I got into it). The bottom line is that each musician may have their personal preference on guitar style but in no way is this guitar an inferior model, it is just a rarer model with the same construction materials and different appointments.
By the way sven, I love your site. |
Tg4080
Username: Tg4080
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 21, 2006 - 12:22 am: | |
Take a look on ebay... here is an am100 to back up my point.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1983-IBANEZ-AM-100-ARTIST-AWSOME_W0QQitemZ7400703323QQcatego ryZ33043QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It has been on only an hour and already has a bid for 600 without a case. Lets keep an eye on it and see what it goes for sven. I'll bet it goes for more than the last several am50s. I personally just sold one of my am100s for 800 with the case and a nice leather strap and straplocks. I hope this is enough proof that your presumption of what the am100 is worth is off. Being as rare as these guitars are, people are paying as much if not more than the am50. |
Artfield
Username: Artfield
Registered: 04-2001
| | Posted on Friday, March 24, 2006 - 4:36 pm: | |
I think the seller visited our Forum....he just lowered the price of the AM205SE ....see for yourself....1750 euros was alot now its any bid above 995 euros...which is good i think.
http://koopjes.marktplaats.nl/muziek_en_instrumenten/snaarinstr_gitaren_elektris ch/27455066.html |