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Author Message   Ibnose Username: Ibnose Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, April 30, 2007 - 12:14 am:    There's one for sale @ us $500 with OHSC. Looks to be in very good shape. How do the members like this Korean made guitar? thanks Ib   Glennm Username: Glennm Registered: 4-2004 Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 10:15 pm:    I got one and I like it a lot. It's a well made semi-hollow with sweet tone. Super 58's sound great. Of course, with this model you get rosewood, dots, and chrome plate instead of ebony, blocks, and gold plate. Still, it's a nice axe that you won't worry about taking out to play.   Ibnose Username: Ibnose Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2007 - 10:39 am:    Hey Glenn Thanks for the feedback. Ib   Mwmeci Username: Mwmeci Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Saturday, May 12, 2007 - 7:38 am:    I have a mint one w/ohsc I'd be willing to sell in the US only.   Thedude Username: Thedude Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, May 31, 2007 - 12:23 pm:    I'm VERY pleased with all aspects of the AS80 I just bought on Ebay. It's a 1994 with the 'mouse ears' and Super 50's. Now I think the Super 50 pickups sound fine and see no evidence of an microphonic feedback on them as others always claim here. It's a reddish sunburst with the small headstock, rosewood neck and the dots. Gotta love um for the price too....enjoy   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Saturday, June 02, 2007 - 7:05 am:    No microphonic feedback? That's nice to hear. It saves a lot of work and and/or money. Just play and enjoy! Ginger   Thedude Username: Thedude Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 2:42 pm:    Ya well Ginger I spoke to soon on the merits of my AS80's Super 50 pups sounding fine. The more I play and then compare them to the ones in my Samick SAT650 they sound shrill and rather nasal (ya know like Rosie O'Donnell). I'm looking at dropping in a set of the GFS Vintage 59's. I've seen lots of good reports on these. I doubt my quest for a reasonably prices set of Super 58's will materialize so the GFS by all reports will get me real close.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 4:43 pm:    As long as you go for Korean Super 58's the prices should be reasonable. Keep in mind that the pole piece distances on Ibanez guitars are METRIC: measure first before you put in INCH pickups. Ginger   Thedude Username: Thedude Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Wednesday, June 06, 2007 - 7:10 pm:    Thanks for the advice. Now I need to research even more though as I see quite often people put all the usual suspect pups in Ibanez guitars such as SD or DiMarzio etc etc. I assume all these are 'inch' pups. I'll make it a point to call GFS and inquire before I buy. I also assume the 58's are now made in Korea again from your note or I just need older ones rather then newer versions made elsewhere. By the way I admire all your expertise and help as I've read through the site. thanks   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 4:16 am:    According to Ibanezfreak1960, there are also Chinese Super 58's, which are used in the JetKing series JTK1 and JTK2. And I saw the Super 58's were mentioned in a spec list of some Satriani model. I'd have to look that up. I never saw the bottom of these pickups, so I can't tell much about them. BTW, speaking of pole piece distances. As pointed out by Mr Roadstar some time ago, the pole pieces of Ibanez humbuckers measured from the centre of the high e pole piece to the centre of the low E pole piece is exactly 5 cm. That goes for both, the neck pickup and the bridge pickup. Since the strings are tapered from bridge to nut, like a trapezium (trapezoid for the USA readers), so it is actually impossible to have all strings straight above the centres of the pole pieces on both pickups, which would have been the ideal situation. Vintage Gibson humbuckers had the same problem, just in inches. Nowadays Gibson give the customer the choice between one standard pole piece distance for bridge and neck (VINTAGE) and two different pole piece distances for bridge and neck (calibrated). Technically the calibrated ones should pick up the best signal, but we are used to a sound that was not technically perfect and we loved it for 50 years. Dave_G once adviced me to buy Gibson Burstbuckers instead of all those Gibbies I have in the drawer. I read they were originally made for Japanese guitars. (That must have something to do with the dimensions and distances between pole pieces). But as you know, Gibson pickups are very expensive. And if someone has put Duncans in an Ibanez and sells the guitar without the original Super 58's, somewhere on eBay these originals must pop-up. They don't vaporize. Ratfinks3 managed to buy a few this way. Anyway, some deviation between pole piece distances and the string distances is acceptable. There are certain tolerances for it, which I don't know and to be honest not want to know, because why would you do all these calculations for some fashionable pickup brand if there are good second hand Ibanez pickups available? I even suspect (but I'm very suspicious), that Mighty Might was involved in the production of pickups for Korean (Cort) Artstar guitars, since they were already their main supplier of humbuckers before Ibanez came to them. What I see on their website, is that they use separate FRONT (neck) and REAR (tail/bridge) pickups, which is technically good of course: http://www.mightymite.com/pickups/guitar/dc/index. html So if you'd buy the VINTAGE BUCKERS (FRONT and NECK), you'd be ready for $60.- in chrome or $80.- in gold, and that's for TWO pickups. http://www.mightymite.com/price/pickups.html Then you have brand new calibrated products with waranty and with ALNICO magnets that should give old vintage sound (no ceramics). Ginger Oops, this is long. Sorry, I'm always afraid I forget something.   Thedude Username: Thedude Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, June 07, 2007 - 6:10 pm:    I just got a responce from GFS pickups regarding their humbuckers pole spacing. "Most of our HB are 52mm spacing Bridge and 50mm Spacing neck". Then as I scoured other sites (including Harmony Central) I find that GFS pickups are MADE in Korea. They sure get rave reviews I must say, as do some of the Mighty Mites. Most places also suggest matched sets calibrated to compliment each others tonal characteristics. Here's the GFS link... http://store.guitarfetish.com/humbuckers.html Incidently I was just forwarded this link to a NY Times article on the shortage of quality woods for guitars. This is for another thread if anyone pick up on it. OH, and as always thanks Ginger. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/07/business/smallbu siness/07sbiz.html?pagewanted=print

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