TONAL differences, ibanez gb vs johnn...

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Author Message Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 8:07 pm:    well, looks like i should get a few more ibanez jazz boxes, i already have a very nice 2355 jazzbox, so , does anyone know of the tonal differences between the gb10 vs ibanez johnny smith, and playing, comfort, etc etc, thanks, jazzz Sabeking Username: Sabeking Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 8:51 pm:    Jazzbo, did you ever get pictures of your 2355? I would like to see good pictures. Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 9:04 pm:    The Johnny Smith is really big and deep. So you get a lot of feedback if you're close to the amp and if you have short arms it's not ideal too. The George Benson is smaller and shallow. So you have more playing comfort and less feedback. The pickups of the two are both floating mini humbuckers, (the GB10 has Benson Special mini humbuckers) but they might be on different positions. The GB10 has a 25.5" scale and some say their Johnny Smith a 24.75" scale (was the bridge position right?). (Didn't measure neither of them). If that's true, you'll have different string tensions and different tone. The best thing you could do is try them yourself through the same amp in the same room. Wildfield Username: Wildfield Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 9:33 pm:    My GB100 had a 24-3/4" scale. I believe the other GB's are also the same. Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 10:59 pm:    thanks for the info, hopefully i can play both, but my gut is telling me the gb would prolly be a better all around axe for me, but then, theres something about that johnny smith, sorry no pics at this time, no one has come forward with any interesting trades or any serious, realistic offers, so its still in storage, but , i see a 1977 2355 on the bay rite now, seems less of them are showing up, cheers-- jazzz Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 5:47 pm:    Hi wildfield, You had a GB100... that's a pitty. I like this sentence better in the present tense... The GB100 has indeed a 24.75" scale. It is a different, bigger and deeper guitar, but if these GB10 specs are right, it's 25.5" http://www.samash.com/catalog/showitem.asp?itemid=40987 Jazzzbo, The GB10 is definitely more allround. The 2461 JS is for jazz specialists. But I understand the problem. They're both gorgeous and no cheapos. Don't sell your 2355 without reserve. Last 2461NT went way too cheap! Don't let this happen to you! A good guitar deserves a good price! At least €900.= / $1140.= The $875.= (€689.=) you're asking is way to cheap for a 1973/'74. I you talk about lawsuit model... this is a lawsuit model! A mint 2355 sunburst is estimated € 1450.= ($1840.=) by Argus. That's pretty high (it's an insurance price). Good luck. Wildfield Username: Wildfield Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 6:52 pm:    Not to stray too far off topic but, the GB100 is the same width as a GB10 at the lower bout. The body is a 1/2 inch deeper than the GB10. Here is a link to a site that has more information on the GB models: http://www.noahjames.com/vintagepage/GBSERIES.HTML Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 8:19 pm:    hey, thanks for the info and the link, im wondering , do the stock mini humbuckers sound good on the GB models , or do most people swap em out, and if so, what are the happening replacements, also, what are some good strings, 10s. 11s. Wildfield Username: Wildfield Registered: 05-2005 Posted on Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - 9:56 pm:    I think they sound great - full, bright, clear and with good punch. Personally, I'd stick with the stock pickup but to each his own. I had my GB100 setup with .012 to .053. Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 8:28 am:    Jazzbo: The stock mini pups are great. Just ask George Benson. But, like the equally great Super 58s that are outfitted on many of the Ibanez guitars, some people think they can be improved. It's really personal taste. Give the stock pups a chance. If you eventually decide you want something else, remember to save the original pups and also make sure that you don't use any replacement pups that require extra screw holes or other irreversble mods. Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 4:59 pm:    yeah, stock is rock or is it? anyway thanks for the good info, i think im on the hunt for a GB 10. im glad i didnt sell my 2355, i see an Ibanez greco es175 type now on the bay for $1145.00 and another ibanez es 175 clone? but not the real deal IBANEZ 2355. getting scarce now ?? i think these axes are really like money in the bank and exceptional guitars, cheers!! Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 1:21 am:    ps. make sure you get alot of good pics!! Sabeking Username: Sabeking Registered: 06-2006 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 7:23 am:    Jazz, If and when you sell your 2355, good pics will be needed for someone to mke an offer. I would have been very interested in it had you taken the time to pull it out of storage. I do think you are making the right decision by possibly keeping it. Good luck... Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 8:17 pm:    Sabe. happy bidding, jazz

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