Video: Benson & Santana..."Breezin"!...

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Author Message Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 9:07 pm:    Here's GB live with Santana to promote his new Breezin album. I don't know what Carlos was promoting at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkvNhm-FqUA Benson is playing a blonde Ibanez Johnny Smith and Carlos has a very pretty Yamaha solid body and a cool custom Boogie setup. Earle101 Username: Earle101 Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 - 7:46 pm:    just my opinion but this clip shows santana is not in the same league as benson. Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 8:12 am:    I don't think the clip is very favorable to Santana. I'll be diplomatic and say that over 30 years ago their musical styles did not gel well. I was wondering what GB was thinking at the moment. Maybe it sounded better in the studio. I do love Carlos' SBG. Mrryte Username: Mrryte Registered: 01-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:24 am:    Indeed. Both are superb musicians in their own right, but the overall result sounds weak. That said, I still wouldn't mind seeing both of them perform together again just to see what else they can come with.... Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:58 am:    I don't think it was that bad. Lucky for Santana they picked a tune without too many changes Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 1:51 pm:    I was talking to another guitar player about this situation and he asked: "what would GB sound like in a rock setting?" Interesting thought. Anybody ever hear GB play outside of his jazz/blues genre? Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:09 pm:    I don't think it was that bad. Lucky for Santana they picked a tune without too many changes Aaron Username: Aaron Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 9:49 pm:    I remember hearing about this clip years before actually seeing. I am a big fan of both GB and Carlos but have to admit that I felt embarrased for Carlos in this clip and still do every time I see it. Sure it's GB'••••• song but Carlos has played this many years in concert before this clip was made so there's no excuse for not knowing it well. The song 'Breezin' was a hit for one of Carlos's main influences Gabor Szabo who'd recorded it years before GB did his version. Carlos seems to be struggling to find his way around the tune in this footage and G.B is being very encouraging but it still not happening for Carlos. I've heard a lot of Carlos's guest performances over the years and he tends ride over the Latin percussion in his own superb way but when it's a different band he consistently seems to lose the plot. But hey, nothing wrong with being the best at your own thing!!! Guitartim Username: Guitartim Registered: 04-2001 Posted on Wednesday, August 16, 2006 - 10:46 pm:    Another Gabor Szabo fan in the house!! Remember "Spellbinder"? That album changed my guitar-playing life! Back to Santana's mating with GB...It was just not a good idea...then or now. George Benson promoted his album anywhere he could and he performed with others to do so. This clip was from the "Midnight Special" TV show. I recall seeing Mr. Benson on the old Glen Campbell" show...but he let Glen Campbell shine on a live performance of Jose Feliciano's great tune, "Affirmation"! Go figure. Cmangeot Username: Cmangeot Registered: 04-2005 Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:44 am:    Honestly, as a guitarist/bassist for 25 years, I think that I am entitled to call Santana a hack when it comes to rock/jazz playing, as I have seen him really tear it up on a classical guitar. Having said that he is a genius because he has created longevity and most recently, mainstream success. Don't get me wrong, I am nauseated when I hear his tone, and I wonder how someone can make a Boogie and a PRS sound so horrible. The pop tunes he has found success with of late are bubble gum songs with solos my 12 year old students could top w/o warming up. It seems whenever Carlos runs out of ideas he starts his "signature" double picking, and poorly phrased bends. Yuck. Benson will always be king, and I guarantee that he would excel in a rock setting. (because I have stolen enough of his licks, and they translate well; its funny to see the faces of shredders who don't know what arpeggio I am sweeping because they don't appear in a book by wolf marshall) I guess if the guy from Creed sat in with Steve Vai we would be saying the same thing. Phatphred Username: Phatphred Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 9:26 am:    Didn't GB go a long way out of his way with the white suit and even (what could he have been thinking of?) a white-painted Johnny Smith? Seeing these guys in their white suits reminded me of those other collaborations involving Larry Coryell, Al Di Meola, Paco De Lucia and his Holiness Sri Mahavishnu John McLaughlin. Some of you guys will remember Love Devotion and Surrender, released in January 1972, on which I always thought poor Carlos really came across as a fish out of water, although his emotional intensity, demonstrated on those rather basic multi-picked single-note runs worked as an excellent foil to McLaughlin's cosmic debris complexities. Mercifully, Santana's next offering was the epic Caravanserai, which showed what the man could do when given his head. And, yes, he has outlived all his rivals and his playing is always instantly recognisable as, unfortunately, is that sound. Jazzzbo Username: Jazzzbo Registered: 09-2005 Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 12:01 pm:    PS, i think Carlos should give Peter Green some credit where credit is due, if you dont know by now, Peter Green was the guitarist , founder , singer of the original Fleetwood Mac, and WROTE, BLACK MAGIC WOMAN, cheers. jazzzz Funkle Username: Funkle Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 8:44 pm:    To be honest, I know a lot of people really identify with Santana as a guitarist, but I've always felt he he has a limited repertoire. He is a master of recombining the same few licks, but he really is a one trick pony - a fish out of water when you get him out of his element. I guess there's nothing wrong with this, but I'm always more impressed with guitarists with some range, and that can play a supporting role as well as playing solos - it doesn't seem that either Santana or Benson were effective supporting musicians in this video.

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