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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 1:31 am: | |
im thinking that the pick ups may be the weak link on my artcore as 73.. im ok so far with the tuning machines and everything else, im thinking of putting on 11 round would, but what pick ups does anyone recc for blues and jazz, otherwise im a happy camper, jazzz |
Wildfield
Username: Wildfield
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 10:28 am: | |
Jazzz,
I installed Seymour Duncan 59's with covers on my AM70. I like the tone so much that I'm thinking of doing the same modification to my AG195.
I'm not great at describing tone, but I would describe the tone of my AM70 w/59's as being fat, warmish yet with a bright treble end. It's not the thin, glass shattering bright. A nice, warm, full bright...is that a fair description?
Has a nice sound for jazz and pop. I don't know much about blues...the tone seems too pretty to be a blues pickup. If a blues pickup requires a little bit of an edge or bite, I don't think that is necessarily the sound of the 59's.
But again...I don't know much about blues and I'm not that great at describing tone. |
Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 12:07 pm: | |
how would you describe the sound of the stock pick ups. like on my artcore as 73, to me, they are just kinda non descript, but i dont want to spend alot and find not much of a difference, what you describe sounds good, do you know of Semour duncan custom or Antiquities?? thanks ps, did you change out the pots etc??? and if so what did you do |
Wildfield
Username: Wildfield
Registered: 05-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, September 02, 2006 - 8:20 pm: | |
The AG195 has 2 x Super 58's - excellent pickups in my opinion. Full, dark, warm sounding pickups. Excellent choice for jazz and the traditional jazz guitar tone even with the smallish AG195 body.
I spent the whole afternoon testing out my new amp/cab setup, using my AG195 as one of the test guitars. I bought a second Raezer's Edge NY8 which I plan to run in parallel with my existing NY8 cab to get more volume and to address the directional characteristic of the closed back cab.
After spending several hours messing around with the setup, I convinced myself that the Super 58's are the right pickups for the AG195 and for the type of music I am playing with it. I'm having second thoughts about replacing the pickups.
Getting back to the topic at hand...sorry I cannot make more recommendations for your guitar. Having had an Artcore with ACH pickups, I can confirm that you will definitely notice an improvement if you select the right pickup. I replaced the ACH pickups on an AF85VLS with SD 59's - the guitar sounded much, much better.
I'm sure you'll get some other suggestions for the folks on this board. Good luck and let us know what you end up doing.
Darryl |
Garyelcrrt
Username: Garyelcrrt
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 10:56 pm: | |
You might consider the SD Phatcat P-94. I have a pair installed in an Epi Dot Studio. This IS the jazz guitar sound I remember from my mis-spent "yout" in Western Pennsylvania. They sound like slightly more sophisticated P-90's, nearly without the hum. You get that big fat round tone from the neck clean, close to early Barney Kessel or maybe a little less, Wes Montgomery - mostly because of the body depth, I think. The bridge, clean, goes from an easy purr all the way to a growl that just runs up and down the back of my neck, especially in the mid- and lower strings. Dirty? Think John Lennon's Casino with a little more control. These things just go! I don't think any guitar player could pluck more than 2 or 3 notes without starting to grin like some kind of idiot and start playin' some BLUES. It's absolutely perfect for some guitar playing, moaning and groaning, sloow blues with a lot of sustain and even more-than-usual changing of octaves during a lead just to see what it sounds like.
I also have a Gibson Blueshawk with a pair of Blues P-90's. Comparing its tone (even with Varitone) to the Dot Studio with Phatcats, the are definitely same family, but sometimes the Blueshawk sounds just a bit too harsh at amp settings where the Dot is just cruisin'.
Have I painted a good enough picture yet?
Whatever way you go with a good solid aftermarket pickup compared to a mid- or low-end MASS-produced pickup, the biggest change that I expect is to get rid of a lot of grunge and muddy sound that sometimes you don't even know was there until its gone. After that, its all about the specific tone you've got in your mind. Try the sound bites at the SD website, www.seymourduncan.com
Enjoy |
Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo
Registered: 09-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 2:28 am: | |
so, your saying these phats would sound good in the 2355 and as 73 , es 335 type. i will go to seymours and check em out, thanks for the info,j |
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