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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 1:01 am:   

I seem to recall some members talking about the 2454. what s the low down on that model, jazzz
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 10:45 am:   

You mean the 1976 on eBay.

Well, Argus says 970 euros for the 2454, 1450 for the 2355 and 1670 euros for the 2355M.

Should we trust that?

If you look at the original 1977 pricelist, we see that the 2454 was originally a more expensive guitar.

The 2355: $360.-
The 2355M: $385.
The 2454: $435.-

http://www.noahjames.com/vintagepage/price.html

The estimate on the 2355 and 2355M is pretty high if you've watched eBay a bit.

So I'd say the argus estimate on the 2454 is pretty good, perhaps a bit on the low side. I guess between 900-1400 dollars is possible.

Given the price of an AS200, it will probably stay below the $1400.- not because it's not good, but because there are more advanced alternatives with Super 58 pups instead of Super 70s. But that's always a matter of personal taste. This IS vintage and a collectors item, so it all depends on the competition. There are 6 bidders active at the moment and perhaps a few snipers.


Gingers
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 12:51 pm:   

so this 2454 is like a gibby 330, but with humbuckers instead of p 90 types and a fancy tail piece? does anyone know how they sound, play etc, jazzz
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 6:59 pm:   

There were early Gibson ES-335 models with a an old-fashioned tailpiece, so without the stopbar as we know it now.

Dutch jazz guitarist Herbie Guldenaar has one in the colour Walnut. I checked the label. And there are no hidden anchor base holes in the body.


Ginger
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Jazzzbo
Username: Jazzzbo

Registered: 9-2005
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 8:18 pm:   

but this 2454 is hollow body , yes? and probably has the super 70 pups? jazz
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Gemberbier
Username: Gemberbier

Registered: 5-2006
Posted on Sunday, May 13, 2007 - 9:47 pm:   

Sustain block or hollow? Good question.

Hmmm, I think we better ask Harry. He has several thinline archtop replicas. He probably just has to look inside.


Ginger

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